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Don't forget Cheeks! That would be too classic. Even if it was just a panel or two.
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I'm wondering if CHEEKS will turn up with A-Bug in the LOBO UNBOUND series!

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I wonder how Zodiac could have been made better. Just take one plot/one house and develop that for several issues before branching out? Still, I'll probably go for all 8 issues just to see how it turns out.

Giffen does great comedy characters. I just read the Vext series last week for the first time, after seeing it mentioned here at LW. Don't understand why that or Ambush Bug didn't persist - maybe with an independent, with lower sales expectations/needs, they might have continued to be published? Still, nice to see AB back in the Lobo book - and Vext would be welcome for a return visit somewhere too.

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If you liked Vext and A-Bug, Cramey, be sure to add THE HECKLER 1-6 (Giff/T&M Bierbaum) to your list of back-issue purchases!

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Too bad to hear Reign won't even go the twelve issues, but at the same time I'm relieved because I've been debating whether or not to continue buying the thing. I bought, but still haven't read #4 and I actually put down #3 half-way through. Not to sound like one of those poeple who put down the TMK Legion for being too dense and hard to follow, but that's how I felt about Reign (I was new to the Legion when TMK came out but I was able to follow that).

I also find it hard to care about any of the characters -- they all seem like pieces of a complex political drama, but while the whole might be interesting once the pieces are put together, I'm missing the personal dramas that should make the epic meaningful and resonant as a reader. It also makes it less interesting to follow the plot while the pieces of the big picture are being assembled.

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I dropped Reign after issue #3. I planned on getting #4 but when the time came I realized that I just didn't care and found it wiser to save my money for something else.


The problem I found wasn't that it was too complex of a plot. It's actually quite simple. It seems as though Giffen was just trying to make it seem really complex with many different levels of intrigue. The writing just wasn't good IMHO. The dialogue was corny and unnecesarily ambiguous. And the revelation that Earth was going to be involved di absolutely nothing for me. The kicker was the scene where the priest was downloading porn. Just tasteless and not something I want to read about. After seeing the work Doran put into her art I REALLY wanted to like this series, but it just never caught on with me.

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The Heckler is right up there with Ambush Bug, the Subs special, the Lobo Christmas special, etc., IMO as Giffen's funniest stuff! I reccomend it to anyone who loves his humor!
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quote:
Originally posted by Fat Cramer:
[QB] I wonder how Zodiac could have been made better. Just take one plot/one house and develop that for several issues before branching out? Still, I'll probably go for all 8 issues just to see how it turns out.

What I wanted was the story to focus on the houses and on the intrigue there. They could have picked any of the houses and stuck with them, or even followed multiple houses.

What I didn't like was the first issue [which was forced on them, as I understand it] was deadly dull and I disliked them going to Earth. I saw it telegraphed early on, and I dreaded it. When it happened I hated that. My interest in the series was a new world with new cultures, not in a bunch of strangers being chased on Earth. So I dropped it then and there. They had jettisoned the world I was interested in, and thus jettisoned my interest in the work as a whole.

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the solicitation for #8 does not seem to indicate that it is a final issue. In fact, it actually seems to inimate that it is the begining of a new story arc.

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Does not matter to me though. I dropped after #3, after having only "tried" to read #1.

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