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Point taken. And, yes, Revenge was better than Phantom Menace.
I'm trying to keep some perspective. I really want to see some good times for Wonder Woman and her devoted fans, who have a real redheaded step child syndrome going on. The expectations everyone is sitting for Gail Simone are so high, I fear nobody could meet them.
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I hear ya. WW has been messed up since they brought her back post-CRISIS as a fledging heroine, "new to Man's World" in the LEGENDS mini. The early Perez stuff was good in spite of that set-up, but she's mostly foundered since. The post-IC relaunch by Heinberg has been a meandering mess in spite of having the Dodsons aboard for the art. But I have faith in Gail-- she's really excited about working on this series. Hell, she gave up Birds of Prey for the chance!
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From: Up a Gumtree | Registered: Jul 2003
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I've been buying Wonder Woman off the racks ever since the revamp, and Amazon Attacks I added to my order in a fit of strange humours... That said, I'm not hating it. What's wrong with me?
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The art by Woods is great, but the story is truly awful, and I continue reading it because I want to have the whole thing so that I can write a total screed to DC when it is done.
I am on record before as observing that having an Amazon decapitate a father and son on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial is one of the worst examples of characterization rape ever printed in comics. It is an abomination, a horrendous abuse of the stewardship of these characters. The idea that warriors as skilled, disciplined and honorable as the Amazons would casually murder innocent non-combatants disqualifies this entire creative team from ever being trusted with any DC character again.
So, Hippolyta's back, but seemingly insane. What great choices they have to wrap up this piece of crap: either Hippolyta ISN'T Hippolyta, or she's under the control of some villain, or she really has become an evil bitch. Great storytelling, guys.
And how will Wonder Woman EVER be trusted again by the U.S. government and citizenry? I don't care WHAT she does to atone for this, her people occupied the nation's capital and defiled some of its most cherished monuments. How does the story end WITHOUT Diana being deported, or worse? Unless that happens, it loses all credibility, which I guess it didn't have in the first place.
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I suspect that Amazons Attack will be quickly and quietly forgotten.
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From: Boston | Registered: Aug 2003
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Well, I don't know if it's enough to make up for the father/son slaughter in #1, but there appears to be *something* going on with the rank and file Amazons in #4 (as shown in their reaction to a nice speech by Superman).
Click Here For A Spoiler Circe returns, to no one's great surprise, I'm fairly sure. And the Bana who chose not to life on Themysicra turn out to be involved with the war-- though we don't know yet to what extent. If it's unThemysciran warriors who killed the father and son and committed some of the atrocities, will that make this story more palatable?
Everything can't be attributed to the Bana, though. If does seem that Hippolyta and the Amazon soldiers are under some sort of compulsion (see Circe).
The use of Supergirl and Wonder Girl is very uneven. One minute soldiers want to arrest them, if not shoot them on sight-- the next they want to escort them to Washington DC where they're "needed".
Is it enough? Can AA be redeemed? I don't know. It seems like this is DC's latest attempt to place Circe in the 'big leagues' of DC villains. I don't think this is hitting the notes DC wanted it to.
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quote:Originally posted by doublechinner: I am on record before as observing that having an Amazon decapitate a father and son on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial is one of the worst examples of characterization rape ever printed in comics. It is an abomination, a horrendous abuse of the stewardship of these characters. The idea that warriors as skilled, disciplined and honorable as the Amazons would casually murder innocent non-combatants disqualifies this entire creative team from ever being trusted with any DC character again.
Its like the worst part of the mid-90's all over again, but even worse.
For shame DC.
From: If you don't want my peaches, honey... | Registered: Sep 2003
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quote:Originally posted by doublechinner: And how will Wonder Woman EVER be trusted again by the U.S. government and citizenry? I don't care WHAT she does to atone for this, her people occupied the nation's capital and defiled some of its most cherished monuments. How does the story end WITHOUT Diana being deported, or worse? Unless that happens, it loses all credibility, which I guess it didn't have in the first place.
It'll all be retconned away shortly in DC's next universe reboot.
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In a way Wonder Woman has reverted back to her 1950's era self. Back then, the title was so whacky, so downright kooky, that pretty much no one knew what the heck was happening in it, and each issue was completely different from the rest. Reading more than 12 issues in a row actually may cause psychological disorders in its readers--true scienfitic fact.
Nowadays, they screwed her continuity up in 1985-6, which lasted awhile, Byrne made some heavy retcons that raised more questions, Donna's history grew into an ever-expanding sentient being, and then recently they tried to tidy it all up again--only to have the immediate year after start derailing the amazons completely! Its like the 50's again, instead of issue to issue being crazy different, its story-arc to story-arc. Its like the 1950's unreadability of Wonder Woman has combined with the modern age of comics 'padding story-telling marketing ploy' to create a menace destined to instill fear, hate and death in comic book fans.
From: If you don't want my peaches, honey... | Registered: Sep 2003
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Good points Cobie. It seems Wonder Woman is a hypertime character. You never know what you are going to get. I always liked hypertime for DC because their characters do act differently depending who is writing them or what title they appear in. Wonder Woman probably the most. I suspect after Final Crisis she will be fixed? (doubt it)
quote:Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: Its like the 1950's unreadability of Wonder Woman has combined with the modern age of comics 'padding story-telling marketing ploy' to create a menace destined to instill fear, hate and death in comic book fans.
Which is certainly a Marvel technique.
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The final issue is out and it is a stinker. The big reveal is that Granny Goodness is behind the whole mess. It doesn't come until the final page. We get no explanation, so I guess it is just a lead in to the next event comic.
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Sure looks that way. I wonder if WW is going to be spending her time finding and reawakening the Amazons?
What's really sad about this mini is the wasted potential. I wanted to see how Cyclops and Pegasi, etc. ended up fighting alongside the Amazons and why... those visuals certainly weren't lived up to in the mini. What happened to the Amazons' allies? Are they scattered on DC's earth, as well? Without memory-- eyepatch-wearing big guys and wingless horses?
Overall, the story suffered due to DC's much tie-in mania. All the Nemesis/Sarge Steel/Circe identity swapping got entirely too muddled between Wondy's book and AA.
In this last issue, though, I think there's the spine of a good idea. Granthena-s speech, equal parts accusation, sentencing and exposition had some interesting qualities to it. It reminded me of Superman's speech to a handful of Amazons earlier in the mini-series. Why? Because the Amazons were *listening*. That sense of these warrior women on the cusp of decision is potent. Too bad it's completely squandered, here.
I will say, I hope the Greek goddess of wisdom appears soon. I'm eager to see Athena kick Granny Goodness' saggy ass.
I wonder if the Greek gods are the ones killing the New Gods? Or the original Titans? Probably not.
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