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i can't stand Winnick's writing. The only thing worse that his taking over GA and ruining it for me (Have the Trevor Von Eden Mini, the Grell Longbow, the entire previous run, Kevin and Brad's stuff, dropped it when winnick hit) would be if they stuck him on nightwing.
We thought we had it bad with Grayson. The new guy isn't horrible, be he ain't great either. But if we got stuck with Winnick....man, that would kill the book for me completely.
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I'm a bit disappointed in the OYL GA. There's been very little action. Winnick said this latest issue would pick up the slack, but it sure didn't feel like it. We got a cool fight with Deathstroke, but it wasn't intense or exciting. McDaniel drew it, but it still feels like a waste of his talent here.
And I don't like Ollie being an expert in the arts martial- that was Connor's schtick. Give me the rough and tumble street brawler.
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*yawn* We got an issue devoted to recap last issue!!!!!!!!!!!
Ollie talks with his aide about Deathstroke's capture. We learn Ollie is real wealthy, and he played some dirty business to get that way. There's some nasty monster stuff brewing in the slums of Star City, and Brick is the only one in the way.
McDaniel draws some nice pictures. But there's no action. This title has lost all the energy Smith and Meltzer brought to it. Winnick had some good tales, and during IC it was exciting to see. But the inconsistencies and OYL have really killed my interest in this book.
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quote:Originally posted by CJ Taylor: And I don't like Ollie being an expert in the arts martial- that was Connor's schtick. Give me the rough and tumble street brawler.
I agree. The guy has arrows - he's gonna usually be outclassed and that's what's cool about Ollie because he manages to triumph anyway, taking a lot of hard knocks along the way but never giving up. It's less so when he's all "super-martial artsy".
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Finally McDaniel gets to draw some motion. Too bad it's all just training montages for Ollie. So now we know how good a fighter Ollie is, and how he made all his money.
This title isn't the snooze fest Hawkgirl or Nightwing is, but it needs something more. Some bad guys and crimefighting.
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I'm with you CJ. Its not a bad series--its pretty fun in fact with lots to applaud, especially McDaniel's art. But it is lacking *something*, whatever that is.
Having Speedy return and now showing her and Conner with Ollie during the missing year is a plus.
I've never warmed up to Winnick's villains, but love his use of Deathstroke here.
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And we've got the story behind Ollie's year. He spend s most of it on an island, training to be a btter fighter. This issue he explains how the old method (bow and arrows) wasn't enough anymore.
There's more action here as Ollie takes on a horder of assassins sent by one of his teachers to break his moral code. There's a lot of fighting, and McDaniel gets to shine. It's fluid and pretty and fun to see Ollie's big face off.
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The Bat really seems to have energized this title. Judd has given Speedy a sassy side. And he seems to have nailed the Ollie/Bruce relationship. Having them trade off Brick and the Red Hood has me waiting for the next issue- a first since OYL.
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Judging from the lack of discussion, there's not much interest in GA these days. Which makes sense with the series ending in two issues.
Reading ish #73, I can see why. Ollie has become a Batman double. He's got multiple sidekicks. Speedy has even become an Oracle type info-gal. Roy's gone on to bigger and better while Connor has filled the Robin role.
The current city divided story is just re-hashing Bat's NML from a few years back. Even McDaniel did time over in the Butbooks.
I really miss the Grell and Dixon GA.
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CJ, is it worth picking up the last few issues? I'm intrigued by the Dinah/Ollie relationship and it looks like there's some big brewing going on there.
Can't believe she'd marry him, though, especially not with her chairing the JLA and with Sin (what is that woman thinking?).
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Dinah popped up on the last page of ish 73. I'm guessing the last two issues will be Ollie pining over her as team Arrow takes down Brick and his generic meta underlings.
I'd skip it if you haven't been reading. With the Year One and the looming BC/GA relaunch, this story will get the trade treatment.
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