Topic: The Official Infinite Crisis Spoiler Thread
Faraway Lad
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I agree. One of the things I liked about the original Crisis was
Click Here For A Spoilerthe simple way they used the fact that a good Luthor existed out there to show how different, strange and wonderful the multiverse could be. I liked the fact that, on one world, in one set of circumstances, a Luthor did not have to be evil. Now apparently using the one good Luthor (that we know about) as the evil mastermind I hope this is just a red herring
quote:Originally posted by Faraway Lad: I agree. One of the things I liked about the original Crisis was
Click Here For A Spoilerthe simple way they used the fact that a good Luthor existed out there to show how different, strange and wonderful the multiverse could be. I liked the fact that, on one world, in one set of circumstances, a Luthor did not have to be evil.
Ah but isn't Click Here For A Spoilergolden evil Luthor Boy the son of the 'good' Luthor? I don't think the "At least one good Luthor somewhere" hypothesis is broken by the actions of that naughty little boy in Infinite Crisis... but please someone correct me if I'm wrong...
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You are correct, Wayne. However, DC has overdone the "good guys gone bad" thing in the last few years. Sure, it was a surprise (to me at least), but I'm sure that they could have found another angle to use.
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I know others aren't feeling the same, but I'm enthralled by this series.
I do think, however, that there is much more going on than it seems. I think the Anti-Monitor somehow (through anti-matter energy and the way the first Crisis ended with him passing through Alex as Alex transported them out)has taken control of Alexander Luthor.
Also, I'm pretty sure the others are correct in that each of the captured heroes is from another Earth. What the anti-matter bomb is going to do is 're-create' the multiple earths. The reasoning: it was because the multiple earths existed in the first place that the anti-matter was able to destroy the positive matter--each earth was weaker than it should have been and thus more susceptible to the anti-matter entropy. Thus, by recreating the multiple earths, the Anti-Monitor could re-weaken the earths and make them easy to destroy again. As you can see, I'm just not convinced its Alex and Superboy behind this.
Of course, this makes me glad that E2 Superman is not the villain here, but is secretly being betrayed by Alex and Superboy (not from Earth-2) or the Anti-Monitor. I feel he'll have a shining moment before this is through and not be shown as some sap.
I wish more heroes were featured though!
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I'm enjoying too. I'm concerned how easily Ka-L was duped though. Remember the Anti-Monitor was able to possess Harbinger in the original Crisis, I'm thinking that's the case again here.
I'm interested to see what the Crisis Secret Files is going to show. I'm hoping it will reveal that all the bad plot ideas of the last 20 years were caused by the manipulations of Alex not some hack writer working for DC Comics on Earth Prime.
Remember that Parallax wanted to create a Multiverse during Zero Hour? Who gave him that bright idea.
That's right all the sins writers have committed against your childhood heroes in the grim and gritty post-crisis era will probably be packed on the Anti-Monitor's back.
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Thus following Alan Moore and Legion World's own LMB and creating the most dastardly of all villains: the ones responsible for the grim and gritty 90's
Also, Dan Didio said there are probably more "Holy SHIT!" moments in this series than any other he can say off-hand, so I'm expecting at least one or two more in #4, and the same for #5-7. I'm not ready to believe there isn't some outside influence on Alex and Superboy yet.
Also, its interesting to remember that technically Superboy of Earth Prime is much, much, stronger than Superman of Earth-2 or post Crisis Superman.
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I'm with you on the whole more going on thing....as a matter of fact my thoughts are very similiar to yours on the matter.
And remember, with each world destroyed the AM grew stronger....
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Eryk Davis Ester
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I'm curious how the existence of the Anti-Matter Earth fits into all of this. It didn't exist pre-Crisis, and seems to be roughly modelled on the postive matter "Earth-3".
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And Hypertime of course. It might not relate at all, but it could have some kind of bearing. It'd be the obvious link to getting the Multiverse back after all.
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I just had an idea for what DC should do / might be doing with IC.
The problem with COIE was that it got rid of a lot of continuity and history that people loved. But bringing all that stuff back won't solve the problems that COIE was meant to solve - i.e., the multiverse was filling up and getting too complicated.
So here's what they could do. Bring back the multiverse, but make it impossible to travel from one Earth to another. That way, if you want to tell an All-Star Squadron story, or a Superboy-and-the-Legion story, you do so, and it exists in its proper world, and doesn't affect whatever DC's current continuity Earth at all, in which Superman arrived on Earth in 1982 or whatever it is.
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Bump for Issue 4 (and this weeks tie ins)....not a good time for a vacation in Bludhaven, nor is it a good day to be a Titan or a teen hero in general.
There are major spoilers within....you are warned.
Click Here For A SpoilerThe SSSV airdrops Chemo right into the heart of Bludhaven
MANY Titans die....horribly
Barry Allen
The Spectre finds a new host in Gotham...
Booster finds Beetle
Cassandra Cain finds Stephanie...
Firestorm gains a new partner.
NO MORE SPEED FORCE!
I will say that between IC and the current Nightwing book, I fear for Dick's future.
I am really starting to abhor the gratuitous violence in this series but there are definitely some Oh @!#$% moments in this issue. I can't wait to talk about this with you guys.
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