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Posted by Singularity on :
 
If you don't know about Google SketchUp, it's a 3D modeling program from Google and it's the easiest thing I've ever learned to use. I started working with it in mid-July and after only a few weeks I was able to start getting things to look the way they do in my head.

What's this got to do with the Legion?
Well, for one, my first real "project" in SketchUp was the Legion cruiser. I love the old Cockrum/Grell design and have always wanted a model of it, but my model making skills are seriously lacking.



This was my first attempt, but my limitations kept me from achieving the look I wanted. Still, I was getting there after only a couple of weeks.



This is the final version, which is in the 3D Warehouse at Google SketchUp site.
My models are here.... http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=60f978bd910d92058810c27397333ef3

Of course, once I'd done the 70s cruiser, I couldn't let the 90s style go undone.



This is still a work in progress, I think of it as the first generation Flight Ring. A bit chunky.



This one started as an experiment to see if I could get the curved shapes I needed. I had a blast with it and will be doing all the versions of the Legion Cruiser that I can find good reference for.



I am obsessing with SketchUp, but there's a method to my madness. I can build models and use them in artwork for my own stuff! No more pesky repetitive backgrounds! I've got a comic strip in the works and I plan to use my models for it.

There's a lot of cool stuff in the 3D Warehouse. Would love to see some more Legion stuff up there.

Later!
Joe

[ August 08, 2007, 02:28 AM: Message edited by: Singularity ]
 

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Posted by Lurker Lass on :
 
That is actually a really interesting idea, using 3D modeling software in making comics. Are the models also compatable in 3D animation programs as well?

Either way, that's an awesome project you have going on. I look forward to your strips.
 

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Posted by Singularity on :
 
Thanks!
I was admiring your artwork, earlier. Your figures have a very "lively" look and I enjoyed seeing unfinished pencils, as well.

Take a look at SketchUp, the price is right and I as blown away by how quickly I learned how to use it.

I follow the Wally Wood philosophy with comic art. There's a quote that goes, "Never draw what you can trace, never trace what you can copy and never copy what you can cut out and paste up."

It's especially true if you're doing all the work, yourself. Anything you can come up with to make the job easier is OK in my book. As long as you don't outright plagiarize another artist's work.

Plus, this way, my ships and buildings will always look consistent AND have the proper perspective for the scene! Perspective, how I hate thee!

Joe
 

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Posted by Star Boy on :
 
Great Stuff! I tried to have a go with SketchUp and kinda... failed. Yeah, let's call it a failure. I managed to get it to produce a background for a Question picture I was working on but other projects got in the way.
But I did see it as the kind of program where if you put in a minimal effort, you get a decent result, but with more effort, you can achieve some really spectacular stuff!
Great Work!
 

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Posted by Sketch Lad on :
 
It's great to see the classic Legion space cruisers done with modern tools! I'd like to see them all shiny! Hey, how bout the original rocket ship clubhouse with fins?
 

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Posted by QuietDarkness on :
 
Singularity, have you ever considered starting a thread for all of your Legion artwork over here? *I* certainly have a ton of it on my computer and I'm sure that everyone here would enjoy seeing all of your pin ups and sketches.

Sheryl
 

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Posted by cpsm1092 on :
 
Those are really good singularity! I really really like the Legion Cruiser one.
 

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Posted by Blockade Boy on :
 
Nice stuff. I downloaded sketchup when it first came out to use for one-point and two-point perspective examples for my students. I like what you've done with it.

I also use an openware program called Persistence of Vision in which you can do some very realistic imaging and animations.

Programs like these really can help to motivate kids and programs that do not have money and they do not take the "latest" technology.
 

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Posted by Singularity on :
 
Thanks. Just finished this one... LSH MkII Cruiser



Man, this is fun!
Joe

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Originally posted by Blockade Boy:
Nice stuff. I downloaded sketchup when it first came out to use for one-point and two-point perspective examples for my students. I like what you've done with it.

I also use an openware program called Persistence of Vision in which you can do some very realistic imaging and animations.

Programs like these really can help to motivate kids and programs that do not have money and they do not take the "latest" technology.

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Originally posted by Sketch Lad:
It's great to see the classic Legion space cruisers done with modern tools! I'd like to see them all shiny! Hey, how bout the original rocket ship clubhouse with fins?

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Ask and ye shall receive!



I looked at several reference pics, and chose to go with the larger scale. It varied from artist to artist, and sometimes from one panel to the next.

Same is true of the Cockrum cruiser, in some scenes it's Enterprise-sized, others, more like a large shuttle. Later, artists like James Sherman would extend to connecting boom out to ridiculous lengths. Then, around the time of Earth War, everybody's ships seemed to regress back to 1950s style rockets. Not a great period for the Legion.

Joe
 

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Posted by Singularity on :
 
Couple of new pieces.

Been wanting to do the Kryptonian rocket since I started playing with SketchUp, finally got one I like.


And a version of the Legion's own Time Bubble...



Joe
 

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Posted by Sketch Lad on :
 
D'oh! I forgot to thank and compliment you on the HQ!! I think it's really great.

Love the Time Bubble, too!
 

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Posted by Singularity on :
 

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Originally posted by Sketch Lad:
D'oh! I forgot to thank and compliment you on the HQ!! I think it's really great.

Love the Time Bubble, too!

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Thanks...
I love how the bubble itself doesn't cast a shadow. If I can ever get them loaded on the 3D warehouse, you can download them a play with them. On the dashboard of the Time Bubble is a communicator from ST:TOS.
 

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Posted by Sketch Lad on :
 
Beware! The requests could keep coming and coming...

How 'bout machinery? Computo, Miracle Machine, Planetary Chance Machine, The Kissing Computer, etc etc...
 

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Posted by Singularity on :
 

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Originally posted by Sketch Lad:
Beware! The requests could keep coming and coming...

How 'bout machinery? Computo, Miracle Machine, Planetary Chance Machine, The Kissing Computer, etc etc...

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