Inspired by a love for the Legion, Magic the Gathering, and The Marvel Magic project, I started working on a Legion set last year. After making one card, life intruded and I stopped.I just started back up a couple of weeks ago. I'll post a couple at a time. Please let me know what you think.
Apokolips
Bgztl
I'm also showing these at a Magic site for rules/wording critiques, so hopefully they will be playable.
Posted by Luna on :
I think they're pretty awesome!
Posted by Monkey Eater Lad on :
Oh awesome! Any character ones down the pipeline? I haven't played Magic since like 1995! I think I still have my cards somewhere...
Opps I meant to say I haven't played since '95...I think I got my drivers license so that kinda got in the way
[ August 26, 2005, 03:08 PM: Message edited by: Monkey Eater Lad ]
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
I used to be a fiend for Magic. I mean fiend. Went to all tournaments in SLC, played at work, and no just on break. A teammate and I would play while working, almost non-stop. Then we'd get a game together at lunch time with two other friends who played. I spent literally thousands of dollars on cards and have a storage shed full of them.
I've really missed play, got away when they started messing with the rules. The same exact reason I stopped playing HeroClix and recently gave up on City of Heroes.
All that being said, Ken, if you came up with a set of Legion cards I'd jump right back in in a heartbeat. And if you made Winath one of the land cards I'd be indebted to you forever! Posted by Lightning Lad on :
In fact we've discussed before coming up with a Legion CCG game. Kid Prime had some really good ideas before real life let it fall by the wayside. Maybe we could bring this project back.
Posted by kenaustin on :
quote:Originally posted by Luna: I think they're pretty awesome!
Thank you, Luna.
quote:Originally posted by Monkey Eater Lad: Oh awesome! Any character ones down the pipeline? I haven't played Magic since like 1995! I think I still have my cards somewhere...
M.E.Lad, yeah, I plan on doing the characters also. I have a total of 13 cards done right now, 15 if you count the two I ended up making into a flip card. 8 lands, 2 artifacts, 1 sorcery, and 2 enchantments. I've decided to try and concentrate on the lands and get them done.
quote:Originally posted by Lightning Lad: I used to be a fiend for Magic. I mean fiend. Went to all tournaments in SLC, played at work, and no just on break. A teammate and I would play while working, almost non-stop. Then we'd get a game together at lunch time with two other friends who played. I spent literally thousands of dollars on cards and have a storage shed full of them.
I've really missed play, got away when they started messing with the rules. The same exact reason I stopped playing HeroClix and recently gave up on City of Heroes.
All that being said, Ken, if you came up with a set of Legion cards I'd jump right back in in a heartbeat. And if you made Winath one of the land cards I'd be indebted to you forever!
Winath will be one of the lands. And if you still fiend for Magic, check out Magic Workstation. That, a scanner, and Photoshop are what I'm using to make the cards.
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Posted by kenaustin on :
next two cards.
Durla
Shanghalla
Back to looking for art for Braal, Brainy's Lab, and Takron Galtos/Labyrinth.
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Posted by Lightning Lad on :
Great additions Ken. And I love the way the artwork meshes with the card design, like it was originally drawn for the cards. Excellent work.
If you need any Legion images all you have to do is ask. I already have almost every Legion appearance ever scanned and stored on an external hard drive. It would only take me a few minutes to upload something for you if you had the reference.
Posted by Luna on :
These are great, the Durla card is really nice.
Posted by kenaustin on :
quote:Originally posted by Lightning Lad: ...If you need any Legion images all you have to do is ask. I already have almost every Legion appearance ever scanned and stored on an external hard drive. It would only take me a few minutes to upload something for you if you had the reference.
Thanks Lightning Lad. Jealous does not convey the feeling...envy maybe. That must have been a real labor of love getting all of those scanned in.
quote:Originally posted by Luna: These are great, the Durla card is really nice.
Thank you Luna. What you do is really great. Your Micros amaze me. Yours is art, mine is basically hackery.
Posted by kenaustin on :
Next two...
Braal
And for Lightning Lord... Winath Posted by Luna on :
quote:Originally posted by kenaustin:
quote:Originally posted by Luna: These are great, the Durla card is really nice.
Thank you Luna. What you do is really great. Your Micros amaze me. Yours is art, mine is basically hackery.
Aww, I love you!
But seriously, I'm loving this it's really great!
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
quote:Originally posted by kenaustin:
quote:Originally posted by Lightning Lad: ...If you need any Legion images all you have to do is ask. I already have almost every Legion appearance ever scanned and stored on an external hard drive. It would only take me a few minutes to upload something for you if you had the reference.
Thanks Lightning Lad. Jealous does not convey the feeling...envy maybe. That must have been a real labor of love getting all of those scanned in.
Wish I could take credit for all of them but some of them have come from 'sharing' scans with other collectors.
And I love the use of the orbital tower for Legion Worlds #2 for Winath.
Posted by Star Boy on :
Awesome! I too was a M:TG fan, and one of my cloests friends still goes to tournaments, and I think is one of the Top 20 players in Australia. Unfortunately (or fortunately?) I too lost interest with Magic with their fourth or fifth expansion, and their subsequent massive changes to rules that saw all my cards out of date and 'not tournament legal' or some nonsense... Plus then I think I had my most valuable ones wrapped up in a silk cloth that fell into my washing one day, and suddenly hundreds of dollars of valuable Psionic Blasts, Dopplegangers and Clones (I was a Blue player through and through) were rendered into a pulpy mass. And maybe that was for the best. The cards are awesome, Ken! Have you worked out the 'stats' for a full set yet, or are you just making them up as you go? My requests are a Star Boy card (with powers something like 'tap Star Boy and X land - not sure what type of land - to tap X other cards' maybe) and an Xs card... Dream Girl (tap Dream Girl to force opponent to show their hand, or maybe add an X land factor for the number of cards to see?) might be fun too... Posted by Monkey Eater Lad on :
"Tap Matter-Eater Lad and X land to eat (destroy) one artifact!" heh heh heh...
Posted by kenaustin on :
quote:Originally posted by Lightning Lad: ...And I love the use of the orbital tower for Legion Worlds #2 for Winath.
That was the first book I looked for a Winath picture, and I really liked it for the card, plus it wasn't hard to clean up. If you can think of another picture (thats not too hard to clean ) please let me know.
quote:Originally posted by Star Boy: Awesome! I too was a M:TG fan, and one of my cloests friends still goes to tournaments, and I think is one of the Top 20 players in Australia. Unfortunately (or fortunately?) I too lost interest with Magic with their fourth or fifth expansion, and their subsequent massive changes to rules that saw all my cards out of date and 'not tournament legal' or some nonsense... Plus then I think I had my most valuable ones wrapped up in a silk cloth that fell into my washing one day, and suddenly hundreds of dollars of valuable Psionic Blasts, Dopplegangers and Clones (I was a Blue player through and through) were rendered into a pulpy mass. And maybe that was for the best. The cards are awesome, Ken! Have you worked out the 'stats' for a full set yet, or are you just making them up as you go? My requests are a Star Boy card (with powers something like 'tap Star Boy and X land - not sure what type of land - to tap X other cards' maybe) and an Xs card... Dream Girl (tap Dream Girl to force opponent to show their hand, or maybe add an X land factor for the number of cards to see?) might be fun too...
Ouch! I lost a Vesuvan almost the same way! I have 20 lands I want to make, and approx. 50 other cards, not including legionnaires, written down. I had thought of a similar idea for Dream Girl and also Naltor, but with looking at the top X cards in an opponents library. I like your Starboy idea.
quote:Originally posted by Monkey Eater Lad: "Tap Matter-Eater Lad and X land to eat (destroy) one artifact!" heh heh heh...
I actually have that for Matter-Eater Lad. "2,T: Destroy target artifact."
Posted by kenaustin on :
Next two.
Titan
Trom Posted by kenaustin on :
Next two.
Colu and Talok VIII Posted by disaster boy on :
these are amzing please pitch these...to somebody...for real.
Posted by Luna on :
These are great, I really like that Talok VIII, you are a great visionary.
Posted by kenaustin on :
quote:Originally posted by disaster boy: these are amzing please pitch these...to somebody...for real.
Thanks disaster boy. I wish I could, but they're just for fun.
quote:Originally posted by Luna: These are great, I really like that Talok VIII, you are a great visionary.
You are way too kind, Luna...thanks.
Posted by kenaustin on :
The next two. Time Institute was a bear getting done.
Time Institute and a flip card...Zerox
And the two cards i made into the flip Zerox Archmage and Zerox
Posted by Monkey Eater Lad on :
Cool! Are flip cards a new Magic card invention? When I was a player I don't we had any of these fancy flip cards!
Posted by kenaustin on :
quote:Originally posted by Monkey Eater Lad: Cool! Are flip cards a new Magic card invention? When I was a player I don't we had any of these fancy flip cards!
Sorry MELad. I haven't been here in, whoa...2 weeks!
Flip cards are a mechanic that was introduced in the current block of Magic, the Kamigawa block. Although there are only "Creature to Legendary Creature", and "Legendary Creature to Legendary Enchantment" flip cards, I felt it was the best way to represent Zerox.
Posted by kenaustin on :
Two new lands.
Medicus One and Orando
I'm waiting on the balance/wording verdict for Orando, so it might change a little.
Here are a few Artifacts I've been working on.
Anywhere Machine and Flight Ring
Miracle Machine and Nightrobe and Visor
If anyone has a better picture of the Miracle Machine than my doctored up version, I'd be VERYwilling to change it.
Gotta catch up on two weeks worth of reading posts starting tomorrow...just in time for issue #10.
edit - I put the wrong land up. edit2 - New Miracle Machine pic thanks to Final Crisis 6.
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Posted by kenaustin on :
About 10 new cards this time.
Two Enchantments. Long Live the Legion and World Prison
Two Sorceries. Powersphere Explosion and Superboy's Crisis
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Three Multi-Colored. Acrobatic Maneuver, Batch SW6, and Infinite Man
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And my first Legionnaires.
Blok, and Bouncing Boy
Brainiac 5, and Chameleon Boy
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Chemical King , and Colossal Boy
Currently waiting on rulings for Cosmic Boy, Dawnstar, and Dream Girl.
Duo Damsel/Triplicate Girl, Element Lad, and Ferro Lad are next in line.
Posted by Monkey Eater Lad on :
love the Bouncing Boy card!
Posted by kenaustin on :
quote:Originally posted by Monkey Eater Lad: love the Bouncing Boy card!
Thanks, MELad. It's a lot of fun doing these.
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
Love the new additions Ken! Can't wait for a full set of Legionnaires to print and play. Maybe some LSV members to balance it out? Posted by Ultra Jorge on :
Love the cards!
Posted by kenaustin on :
quote:Originally posted by Lightning Lad: Love the new additions Ken! Can't wait for a full set of Legionnaires to print and play. Maybe some LSV members to balance it out?
Thanks Lightning Lad. I've been wanting to do Nemesis Kid and Sun Emperor.
Thanks Ultra Jorge.
Posted by kenaustin on :
Newest additions.
Cosmic Boy , Dream Girl
Element Lad , Ferro Lad
Dawnstar , and Triplicate Girl
Dawnstar needs the "flight ring" ability added to the card...will get to that ASAP.
edit: updated Triplicate Girl
[ March 20, 2009, 07:50 AM: Message edited by: kenaustin ]
Posted by kenaustin on :
A week or so after the last post my PC failed. HD, MB, Processor, power supply, and RAM...all gone. I'm guessing electrical surge. Luckily I had a backup HD not attached at the time, but I hadn't backed up in at least a month...yeah, I know, I back up every time I do something new now. I have been using the wife and kids PC just to post, but I promised I wouldn't use it for my stuff. Anyway, I finally got my PC up and running last month, all the lost info back and will be posting new cards later today.
Posted by kenaustin on :
Latest cards. Unsure of the rulings/wordings/templating. Waiting for feedbaack from a magic site. In all cases I'm leaning toward the second card out of two.
Invisible Kid & Invisible Kid II
Karate Kid & Laurel Kent
Any and all questions & comments will be greatly appreciated.
edit: finished cards left up, testing versions taken down. edit2: updated Karate Kid
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Posted by Monkey Eater Lad on :
I just noticed, how come the characters have such low points (1/1)? Won't a lot of them die easily? I haven't played Magic in years but I thought lots of characters would closer to the 3/4 range?
Posted by kenaustin on :
quote:Originally posted by Monkey Eater Lad: I just noticed, how come the characters have such low points (1/1)? Won't a lot of them die easily? I haven't played Magic in years but I thought lots of characters would closer to the 3/4 range?
In the beginning I wanted to do just that, but...
Anybody reading this, if you a)know nothing about Magic, b)don't remember much about Magic, and/or c)don't really care about Magic, then read this...
The short answer It all comes down to casting cost. I had to so as to keep the casting cost of the cards down so they could be playable.
If you're still with me and are interested...
The TMI answer I had wanted to make average human level strength/toughness at about 3/3. But a generic 3/3 creature(no special abilities, flight, or anything...just a plain ground pounder) will cost you (3)(X), where the (3) is generic mana and X is 1 specific colored mana.
Every Legionnaire gets a flight ability. All get an activated ability, but some have it natural, so they will have two. Hey, flight rings for everybody. One instance of flight will add at least (1) to the cost, so make it (4)(X).
Making them multi-colored changes the cost to (2 or 3)(X)(Y), where Y is 1 different specific colored mana. It's harder to cast a (X)(Y) multi-color creature, hence the reduced cost. Add in one ability and the cost goes up, sometimes by (2 or 3) more, and often by an added (X), (Y), or even a (Z). A second ability, even more. A keyword ability, more again. Remember, these have normal strength/toughness.
To make a Blok, Ultra Boy, Mon-El, or Superboy would put the strength/toughness in the 6/6 or more area. The casting cost would start at least at (5 or 6)(X)(Y), before additions. They would never get into play.
It pained me to know that the majority could be wiped out by a single activation of "Pestilence" or some other measly 1 point killing spell, but that was the trade off. This project has given me a great amount of respect for the R&D department at Wizards and every other gaming company.
Whew! M-E Lad, if you're still here, I hope that answered your question. Thanks for looking and asking.
Posted by kenaustin on :
Three new cards.
Starhaven & Teachers Assemble on Zerox
Phantom Girl
I'm not sure of the title "Teachers Assemble on Zerox".
Thanks for any and all comments.
Posted by kenaustin on :
Four new cards.
Credo & Mordru Raises the Dead
Kid Quantum II & Wildfire
Thanks for any and all comments.
Posted by Set on :
Heh, sacrifice Ferro Lad to destroy any creature. That's a riot!
Posted by kenaustin on :
Ten new cards all representing the Fatal Five. Awaiting ruling/wording/templating revisions if any.
Emerald Empress , Emerald Eye, and Mano
Tharok, and Validus
Persuader, and Atomic Axe
Thanks for any and all comments.
edit: updated Mano
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Posted by kenaustin on :
Caress, Flare, and poor Mentalla
Thanks for any and all comments.
Posted by kenaustin on :
Seven new cards. Awaiting ruling/wording/templating revisions if any.
Duplicate Boy, Lightning Lad, and Lightning Lass
Mon-El and Nemesis Kid
Polar Boy and Veilmist
Thanks for any and all comments.
edit: updated Nemesis Kid
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Posted by kenaustin on :
Five new cards. Awaiting ruling/wording/templating revisions if any. I'm working on Sensor Girl, but the wording/templating is giving me headaches!
Daxam, Quislet, and Saturn Girl
Shadow Lass and Shrinking Violet
Thanks for any and all comments.
Posted by Teronna on :
I know nothing about Magic: The Gathering, but I appreciate the time and work you spent on these beautiful cards. Nice job. Posted by kenaustin on :
Thanks Teronna!
Posted by Candle on :
Another interesting bump.
Posted by kenaustin on :
Thanks Candle! I'd forgotten I had this thread here.
Catastrophic Cultists, Sacrifice of the Catastrophists, and Armageddon
Khund Battle Wagon, Khund Battle Wagon 2, and Khund Challenge Courts The 2nd Battle Wagon was made using the "future-shifted" Magic style.
Matter-Eater Lad, and Grandin Gender-Reversal Disease
Posted by kenaustin on :
Infinite Library, Kid Psycho, and Luck Lords
Power Melding, and Punched Into Orbit Punched Into Orbit was made as a "hybrid" Magic card.
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Sensor Girl, Star Boy, and Sun Boy
Timber Wolf, and Tyroc
Ultra Boy
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Posted by Candle on :
Thank-you for sharing these with us! I didn't know that DC made a Legion Magic set and they're really great.
These must have come out during the Levitz Baxter era. I've been through this whole thread once, awhile ago, but I should go over it again to look for details that I'm sure you've included.
Thanks, again! Posted by Candle on :
quote:Originally posted by kenaustin: . . . I started working on a Legion set last year. After making one card, life intruded and I stopped.I just started back up a couple of weeks ago. I'll post a couple at a time. Please let me know what you think.
OH MY GOSH!!! You made them!
I'm muy impressed! They're so professional. Magnificent!
Posted by kenaustin on :
Computo II, Infectious Lass, and Kinetix
Posted by kenaustin on :
quote:Originally posted by Candlelight: OH MY GOSH!!! You made them!
I'm muy impressed! They're so professional. Magnificent!
Sorry I'm so very late with this, but... Thank You! Posted by Dev Em on :
These are flippin awesome!
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Thanks! Posted by kenaustin on :
I tried something different with the image background on this card. I really like how it turned out.
Jeyra Entinn
Posted by kenaustin on :
It's been a while...
Tellus, and XS
Posted by Power Boy on :
These are FANTASTIC!
(and I don't know Magic the Gathering)
Posted by Exnihil on :
Yay! Glad to still you're still making these, kenny.
I've always wondered, do you do these just for fun - just to design them - or do you actually play a game with them, like at your LCS or something?
Sorry if that sounds like a dumb question, I don't know the first thing about Magic the Gathering.
Posted by kenaustin on :
Thanks Power Boy!
quote:Originally posted by Exnihil: I've always wondered, do you do these just for fun - just to design them - or do you actually play a game with them, like at your LCS or something?
Mostly just for fun, as my Legion creative outlet. Although these would never be accepted in an actual MtG game, I did make them so I could play with them.
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Supergirl
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Superboy
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Lightning Lord
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
Awesome cards! I don't know much about Magic, but I'm impressed by how the card effects tie into comics lore - and also by your breadth of knowledge, you're really tapping into almost all the eras!
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Saturn Queen
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Cosmic King
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Sun Emperor
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Chameleon Chief
Posted by Viridis Lament on :
I haven't looked in here in a while, but the last few that I haven't seen before are spectacular. Great work, makes me want to start playing Magic!
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Thanks Viridis!
Spider Girl
White Witchupdated, and Black Witch
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
You pick some pretty good images! The villain cards look really... well... villainous!
And the cards you're picking - like in the previous page, you have "Punched Into Orbit" and "Sacrifice of the Catastrophists" - are really creative!
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And if you still fiend for Magic, check out Magic Workstation. That, a scanner, and Photoshop are what I'm using to make the cards.
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