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Posted by Future on :
 
Let's say, for whatever reason, the decision was made to reboot the Legion yet again for the DCNu. However, instead of rebooting with the typical Silver Age Legionnaires, editorial decides to create a Legion plucking its membership from all major eras of the team. Just which Legionnaires will make the cut though?

I've decided for this poll to try and build a traditionally sized roster of 25 Legionnaires. The twist, though, is that this ISN'T the 25 most popular Legionnaires. Instead, I've divided the unique members over the Legion's history into 25 chronological 'groupings' and you must vote for one Legionnaire per group to see on a rebooted team. A Legion where only ONE of the three founders is a member. Only ONE super/Daxamite cousin. Only one of Shooter's Four. Whoever wins, it'll definitely be a Legion we've never seen before. So get to voting!
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
Awesome poll!
 
Posted by Iam Legion on :
 
WoW!!! That was really tough. I generally like to pair up Legionnaires for a balance when I put together a team. Like: Brainy/White Witch (Science/Magic), Saturn Girl/Mon-El (Mind/Body), Colosal Boy/Shrinking Violet (Grows/Shrinks), etc. for most of the team then throw in all the least human looking for the last 5 or so. This poll didn't allow so much for that and made me have to rethink my choices. Cool!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
That's one of the fun things about this arrangement, I've found. The team may be a bit impractical and be missing certain power or skill types, but the results are definitely interesting. For example, my Legion within the confines of the poll is actually 80% female! Pretty cool.
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
I found myself actually keeping track of the gender balance as I went along, as well as thing like "I voted for character X, probably best not to vote for character Y with the same powers".

It would be interesting to experiment with different ways of grouping the Legionnaires, though.
 
Posted by Dev - Em on :
 
That was a bit of fun there. Some hard choices. At first I though of doing like EDE said with trying to balance, but just decided to go with my gut feeling. I think the end result actually was pretty balanced.
 
Posted by Emily Sivana on :
 
I really liked this poll. You sub-divided the members very well. Can you post a villain version please?
 
Posted by Legion Tracker on :
 
That was very cool!
 
Posted by Set on :
 
Awesome poll. Some totally painful choices, for me. (I woulda picked all three Adventure Close-Out Legionnaires, and half of the Academy recruits, if I could have!)

I couldn't find Lamprey in the 'pick two' options at the end, so I voted for her in the Academy section, and then picked Nightwind as one of my 'wild cards.'

I couldn't very well not pick both of them!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Thanks for the compliments! Glad everyone is having fun. Now that Set has mentioned it, I -did- overlook Lamprey, Power Boy, and Shadow Kid in the "Wild Card" section. My apologies for that. Feel free to mention them in comments here if they would have been your votes.
 
Posted by stuorstew on :
 
This was a great poll and like everybody else really had me thinking who I would want and who I could actually have..

I did find the first few questions particularly difficult though as how can you really choose two from Tinya, Lu, Thom, Querl and Jo? All five of which would walk into any Legion of mine. Even the final question did not help as one of them had to give way to Laurel as surely everyone wants a Legion with Kara and Laurel fighting over Brainy?
 
Posted by razsolo on :
 
Difficult! I tried to pick just my favourite out of each individual grouping rather than trying to figure out how they all would work together in a team, so I wasn't so much considering power overlap or complimentary abilities so much as just who I like as a character.

If I were gonna do it in terms of what would make the best team of 25, I think I would have different results...
 
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
 
Awesome poll! Really made me think... now this is a Legion that is all-inclusive.

And THANK YOU for the Wild Cards! It was awesomely difficult picking between the Reboot Legionnaires.

I wonder how voting was affected by other choices in the poll? For example, would Dragonmage have gotten more votes if his era had come before White Witch's? Did anyone pick Veilmist as a substitute for Gates?

[ August 20, 2011, 05:25 PM: Message edited by: Invisible Brainiac ]
 
Posted by Set on :
 
After picking Veilmist, I did skip on Gates.

But I picked both White Witch and Dragonmage. Dragonmage never really used 'magic' anyway, he just shot really powerful energy blasts and called them magic, it seemed, so he pretty much made up for my not picking Lightning Lad or Lass...
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
My choices, for what's it's worth (and while I still remember them)...

Click Here For A Spoiler
1. Cosmic Boy
2. Triplicate Girl
3. Invisible Lyle
4. Brainiac 5
5. Superboy (Clark)
6. Shrinking Violet
7. Matter-Eater Lad
8. Nemesis Kid
9. Shadow Lass
10. Tyroc
11. White Witch
12. Quislet
13. Nightwind
14. Infectious Lass
15. Calamity King
16. Spider Girl
17. Veilmist
18. Catspaw
19. Kinetix
20. Gear
21. Theena
22. Night Girl
23. Comet Queen
24. Bouncing Boy
25. Er... Crap! I already forgot the last one! Dream Girl, maybe?

 
Posted by Mystery Lad on :
 
Aargh! I had to choose between Element Lad and Dream Girl! I was slightly traumatized till I saw the last section of 'pick ups'. I still ended up leaving Infectious Lass out- the shame!

I did pick Veilmist and Gates-- she for planet-to-planet teleportation and Gates for line of sight teleporting, a distinction that I think is pretty interesting.

I toyed with picking both Cham and Chameleon Girl, but didn't. I still think reading about how they're different would've been interesting. Her identity as an actress expressed through changing shapes would've been fun. She *really* should've rarely been one to stretch her limbs, etc. Oh, well- a lost opportunity.

I also thought about picking both Chemical King and Kid, but decided not to.

I kind of assumed that picking either of Saturn Girl or Lightning Lad would mean the other's not an official member, but is off the roll call taking care of the kids.

An illuminating exercise. It's fun to imagine Nightwind or Lamprey or Gravity Lad as official Legionnaires... until I realize it means no Shrinking Violet or Wildfire or Ayla.
 
Posted by googoomuck on :
 
I didn't want to vote for a Khund Legionnaire.
 
Posted by the Hermit on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by googoomuck:
I didn't want to vote for a Khund Legionnaire.

Well, technically Flederweb wasn't actually a Khund (although come to think of it they never did say where he was from).

That said, I voted for Veilmist, mainly because having her around would make for some interesting interpersonal issues.
 
Posted by MLLASH on :
 
What fun!!

I appreciated the 2 Wild Cards, because I got to choose:

DREAM GIRL (deciding between Dreamy & Tenzil was hard, but I had to select my good ol' MEL)

and ULTRA BOY (I had to select Brainiac 5 over him because I feel the B5 character- or someone like him- is indispensible.

Others I chose (that I recall)

Saturn Girl, Triplicate Girl, Veilmist, Andromeda, Infectious Lass, Computo, Polar Boy, Night Girl, Power Boy, Gravity Kid, Impulse (Kent), Kinetix, Princess Projectra...

Yeah, looks like my LSH would be heavy on the chicks and include the gays!

ETA: I also remember now selecting Colossal Boy and Sun Boy in their categories.

[ August 21, 2011, 01:24 PM: Message edited by: MLLASH ]
 
Posted by Fat Cramer on :
 
Fun poll! A few clear favourites in the results.

I was choosing based on powers, but wound up with 14 females. It was hard to get the Johnsboot version of Storm Boy out of my mind, but I chose him because I like his power and, hopefully, he wouldn't go all evil and crazy.
 
Posted by Power Boy on :
 
I couldn't get past choosing between element lad and dream girl .... I think they are both essential to what *is* the legion .... I picked andromeda which was almost tough ... And briainac five won over ultra boy but I think ultra boy is also essential ....

I'll have to gather my strength to finish the quiz later ! [LOL]

I'll have to strategize my wild cards and return to the quiz .
 
Posted by Dev - Em on :
 
Interesting to see who's not getting much...if any, love from the people here.
 
Posted by Power Boy on :
 
Ok I did it .... Seems like there are some strong trends but .... Phantom girl and kono winning their races ?? [Smile]


I had some shocking results ... I chose lightning lass over dream girl partly because I chose Saturn girl over lightning lad ... And then I got to choose dream boy so my wild cards went to ultra boy and element lad ! Some groupings were harder than others for sure ... I picked flederweb cause I didn't pick any athletes until then besides strength . I didn't get shrinking violet in there .

I usually like to lay out all my choices and then arrange instead of doing it separated like this.

Great poll !!!!

No kid quantum 1 ?or did I miss that ...
 
Posted by Jerry on :
 
Fascinating results, and many not that surprising to me. There is definitely some love for characters like Kent Shakespeare, Infectious Lass, Andromeda and Kid Quantum. DC seems to continue to struggle with direction for Legion. It just seems so obvious that readers would be interested in seeing some of the characters who are trending well here utilized in the actual books.
 
Posted by Set on :
 
Power Boy is doing incredibly well. I knew there was a lot of love for Lamprey and Nightwind out there, but I never expected to see votes for Jed!

Heh. I'm intrigued that I'm not the only person who picked Nemesis Kid, of the 'Shooter Four.' I wonder how much of that is because of the cartoon characterization?
 
Posted by future king on :
 
That was a fun poll, AND I got all my favourites in there ... including Shikari! [Smile]

We need more of these polls more frequently!!!
 
Posted by Candlelight on :
 
I think I chose Computo as a Brainy substitue.

I wouldn't have picked ANY of the Khunds, [Razz] .
Veilmist was/is too disruptive and I don't like what she brings out in others, either.
[shrug]

I much prefer Sensor to Jeckie, I'm afraid. The Naga is so much more interesting, imo.

Umbra wasn't a choice, so I went with Shady, but her Prme and retro boot characterizations have really soured me on the character.

I also wanted Quislet, Gear, Lu, Zoe and Dreamy, but couldn't fit them in.
 
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
 
I found some categories easy, and some painfully difficult. Having to choose between Gates, XS, Gear and Shikari for my wild cards was awfully hard. I ended up with both Veilmist and Gates because Veilmist was the only Khund Legionnaire I found tolerable. I did forget about Flederweb, though.

I wonder what versions posters would choose?

Click Here For A Spoiler
1. Saturn Girl
2. Phantom Girl
3. Brainiac 5
4. Chameleon Boy
5. Andromeda
6. Shrinking Violet
7. Element Lad
8. Karate Kid
9. Shadow Lass
10. Wildfire
11. White Witch
12. Polar Boy
13. Nightwind
14. Infectious Lass
15. Impulse (Kent)
16. Kono
17. Veilmist
18. Computo
19. Kinetix
20. Kid Quantum II
21. Theena
22. Chameleon Girl
23. Chemical Kid
24. Gates
25. XS


I ended up with 16 gals and 9 guys. I would have happily tossed out Kent, Veilmist, Theena and Chemical Kid for Jeckie, Dream Girl, Shikari and Garth, though. I love Theena, but would be happy with her on support staff.

My choice between Jazmin and Shikari eventually went to Jaz because I liked her characterization and felt she had more unusual powers, whereas the Legion could grab any Kwai as their guide. In hindsight though, pathfinding is awfully useful.

I also picked Jeckie before Val, then thought that I lacked close-range fighters, and felt that Imra could replicate Jeckie's powers to a degree.
 
Posted by Set on :
 
Superman X, Variable Lad and Porcupine Pete, with their zero votes, are going to go off and form their own team, The Legion of Super-Zeroes!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
Voting closed yesterday! The results were a lot of fun to watch and I want to thank everybody for participating!

What I really enjoyed more than the final results was who was actually ahead for different parts of the week. For the first few days, I recall Tyroc had twice as many votes as either Dawnstar or Wildfire. Andromeda led the Super cousin pack at first. All the threeboot kids and SW6 kids (save for Kid Quantum I) were tied for the first few hours which I thought was kind of neat to see. From the 90s and early 2000s, it looks like the females tend to be more memorable/useful than their male counterparts. No matter how hard they tried, Superman X, Variable Lad, and Porcupine Pete still didn't get any love. Maybe another reality, guys!

So, it looks like Legion World's DCNu Legionnaires would be:

01. Saturn Girl
02. Phantom Girl
03. Chameleon Boy
04. Brainiac 5
05. Mon-El
06. Sun Boy
07. Element Lad
08. Princess Projectra
09. Shadow Lass
10. Wildfire
11. White Witch
12. Polar Boy
13. (TIE!) Nightwind and Power Boy
14. Infectious Lass
15. Impulse (Kent)
16. Spider-Girl
17. Veilmist
18. Computo
19. XS
20. Kid Quantum II
21. Gazelle
22. Night Girl
23. Chemical Kid
24. Dream Girl (Wild Card)
25. Ultra Boy (Next highest Wild Card, as Brainy and Jan made the roster proper)
 
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
 
Hmmm, I wonder how many people were voting for Jeckie as Sensor Girl, and not as old Princess Projectra?

Some of the margins are also interesting. Kono only lost to Spider-Girl by one vote; while poor Lightning Lad only had 5 votes total!

And plenty of ties for 4 wild card votes (just 1 vote behind Ultra Boy)

Chameleon Boy (got in)
Lightning Lad
Dawnstar
Mon-el (got in)
Shrinking Violet
Wildfire (got in)
 
Posted by MLLASH on :
 
I hope in our fistory, we will have spoken of many more wonderful Future polls!!
 
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac:

And plenty of ties for 4 wild card votes (just 1 vote behind Ultra Boy)

Dawnstar

Interestingly, Dawnstar had more total votes than Ultra Boy, even though she didn't get in. If a couple of those who voted for her in her own category had voted for her instead as a wild card, she would've been in!

quote:
Originally posted by MLLASH:
I hope in our fistory, we will have spoken of many more wonderful Future polls!!

Agreed!
 
Posted by Set on :
 
One of my voting criteria was a preference not to split up couples, if possible. So once I knew that, I knew that if I voted for Tinya, then I was also voting for Jo, and that the only founder I was gonna get was Rokk (since I wasn't gonna have both Garth and Imra). No Thom meant no Dreamy. Such pain!

And I still had to break my rule, by picking Mysa without Blok and Gravity Kid without Power Boy.

So hard to pick and choose!
 
Posted by Future on :
 
One thing I've enjoyed about running this poll has been the discussion that's followed. I've liked learning what various people's criteria has been for assembling their teams.

quote:
Originally posted by MLLASH:
I hope in our fistory, we will have spoken of many more wonderful Future polls!!

*choke* Lash = faboo. I do have another poll in the works, so stay tuned.
 


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