So I asked Paul Levitz on facebook if the Legion Board Game was to be taken seriously and if it was canon. He said:
"Nope...just a game Brian cooked up and a smile. Kinda like the old Stan & Jack plotting sessions in the back of the classic Marvel annuals...
[ February 04, 2011, 10:11 PM: Message edited by: lil'rhino ]
Posted by Iam Legion on :
Well that should make some readers feel better. Now ask him if anything else is cannon, because it feels alot like the Legion back-up story in Legends.
Posted by Ken Arromdee on :
Okay, fine. It was hard to tell, though. It's not as if the timeline said things like "Fifteenth Legion HQ built, HQ building becomes a 31st century career choice" or anything else which is obviously both jokey and false, except maybe the mention of Shadow Lass's divorce, which given the retconning we see nowadays isn't that unbelievable as a retcon.
Anyway, added a note to the continuity checklist saying it's not canon. Should I leave it in the checklist at all?
Posted by Iam Legion on :
Maybe a Footnote: Legion board game seemed to contradict several historical events, however, Mr. Levitz confirmed it was not to be tsken as cannon. ? Or however you want to deal with it. You are doing all the work, you should get to choose how to handle it.
Posted by TimeTrapR on :
Until the published work states otherwise of course
Yet it was presented as a game and I'm sure it achieved the desired affect.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
I dunno about anything else, but the cannon is one of my favorite pieces from the Monopoly board game!
Posted by Legion Tracker on :
quote:Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: The cannon is one of my favorite pieces from the Monopoly board game!
EDE, perfect game piece for the Legion board game!
Posted by Candlelight on :
Does that mean Tasmia and Lar AREN'T divorced? Because she's certainly 'shacking up with Earth Man'.
It's good to know it's not canon, well, not all of it because some of it was correct. jeez
Posted by Ken Arromdee on :
quote:Originally posted by Candlelight: Does that mean Tasmia and Lar AREN'T divorced? Because she's certainly 'shacking up with Earth Man'.
It's good to know it's not canon, well, not all of it because some of it was correct. jeez
It's generally believed (prior to the board game) that Conspiracy didn't happen, thus no marriage in the first place (and which is why she still has the finger--and why Mon-El is still alive, since he died a few issues after the marriage).
Posted by Jerry on :
Paul's response is disappointing if not surprising. DC just seems to be stuck in this rut of stubbornly refusing to provide any clarification regarding fans questions concerning some major continuity glitches. One of the prime examples for me is the dangling question for Wonder Woman fans regarding whether Hyppolyta's career as the World War II era Wonder Woman stands.
This status quo is even more unfortunate for the Legion, because the much of the confusion relates to major story lines scripted by the current writer. If anyone should know whether or not Conspiracy happened it would be Paul Levitz.
Posted by Iam Legion on :
quote: It's generally believed (prior to the board game) that Conspiracy didn't happen, thus no marriage in the first place (and which is why she still has the finger--and why Mon-El is still alive, since he died a few issues after the marriage).
Of course, The Magic Wars occured and Pol died after Conspiracy aswell and yet we know that still happened.
quote: Paul's response is disappointing if not surprising. DC just seems to be stuck in this rut of stubbornly refusing to provide any clarification regarding fans questions concerning some major continuity glitches.
DC does not care about what fans think. They only care about sales/profits and as long as the fans buy, that is all they care about.
Posted by Jerry on :
That's a bit of an oversimplification. Of course comic book companies care about sales. It's difficult to have good sales without trying to figure out, at some level, what the customers want - or at least what they will spend their money on. There is enough diversity regarding what fans want, though, that it is often a moving target.
Legion sales seem to have settled around the 25K mark. Those of us who care about whether or not Conspiracy happened are a small enough number that providing an explanation probably would not have much of an impact either way. It is frustrating for those of us who do care, and have been loyal not to have explanations that would be fairly simple to provide.
Ultimately, the decision for DC has to do with accessibility of the stories they present. Do continuity glitches make things so confusing that new fans are put off by the book. Or, do attempts to straighten these things out highlight the complex history of the characters and put off potential new fans even more? I don't have the answer. DC doesn't appear to either. They seem to have given up, and that concerns me.
Posted by Candlelight on :
quote:Originally posted by Ken Arromdee:
quote:Originally posted by Candlelight: Does that mean Tasmia and Lar AREN'T divorced? Because she's certainly 'shacking up with Earth Man'.
It's good to know it's not canon, well, not all of it because some of it was correct. jeez
It's generally believed (prior to the board game) that Conspiracy didn't happen, thus no marriage in the first place (and which is why she still has the finger--and why Mon-El is still alive, since he died a few issues after the marriage).
Well, if Levitz isn't going to address the actual circumstance of the Conspiracy, one of his own major storylines BEFORE Magic Wars, I don't know what to say.
I DO know that Lar and Shady talked about marriage long before and they could have easily followed though with those plans, especially if Lar wasn't mortally hurt.
And IF he wasn't hurt that badly, he could have easily talked Shady out of mutilating herself, since in the original story she did that completely on her own.
Since Paul said that everything through Magic Wars happened to some degree or other, I don't see why we can't assume that they were married.
Posted by Dave Hackett on :
As a continuity wonk myself it's frustrating, but I do understand where Paul is coming from. We have a "close as we'll get" form of the Legion that more or less picks up Paul's cast where he left off and he's forging forward. I think there's not much to be gained story-wise from going back and hitting minutiae right now (I know, I know, Mon's death isn't exactly a minor thing). The most important thing right now is to get the team on a stable track and tell good stories. Taking the time to go back and rehash and clarify will only stall the book and risk alienating new readers and those who aren't that curious to get this sorted out. I'm sure down the road there's room for "Lost Tales" but I think for now we're left to debate on our own and play the "Maybe it was this way..." game.
Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller on :
IamLegion:
quote:Of course, The Magic Wars occured and Pol died after Conspiracy aswell and yet we know that still happened.
We know Pol died, but we don't know exactly about the Magic Wars, because Zerox still exists (or has been restored?) and it was destroyed at the end of the MWs.
Posted by Iam Legion on :
And Takron Galtos was destroyed durring events related to CoIE, and yet it was there to destroy/heavily damage again when Lo3W occured.
Posted by Kid Quislet on :
I believe the new magic planet has been stated to be Tharn?
In the 31st century, building new prison planets could be as easy as making more Tostitos.
Posted by Chaim Mattis Keller on :
quote:I believe the new magic planet has been stated to be Tharn?
Was it? I'll have to double-check my copy of Lo3W, but I thought it was Zerox. Or maybe they went ambiguous and said "Sorcerer's World."
Tharn was the replacement Sorcerer's World in the TMK continuity.
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