- Earlier in the book he rambles about the murder of Kenz Nuhor and a 10 to 9 vote!
- He's got major gravity powers, and can make things ligth as well as heavy.
- At the end he unmasks to reveal the bearded white guy we all remember so well.
- He also lets it drop that on his way from there to here, he spent some time trapped in the Kingdom Come Universe, meaning he was also the Kingdonm Come Starman!
Posted by Nightcrawler on :
Posted by wndola1 on :
ok looking at this here... is this background image actually from kingdom come? anyone wanna break down the characters featured here? or are you going to make me break out and dust off my copy.
[ January 11, 2007, 12:06 AM: Message edited by: wndola1 ]
Posted by wndola1 on :
ok I dug out Kingdom Come and it's chock full of clues...
Posted by Sketch Lad on :
Well, I have no idea what's going on, but it's great to see Thom! (I've never picked up an issue of JSA...)
Posted by Ultra Jorge on :
Oh well a Legion member with a beard! No eat it grandpa! this is very exciting. I loved this version of Thom!
Posted by Tekwych on :
quote:Originally posted by Sketch Lad: Well, I have no idea what's going on, but it's great to see Thom! (I've never picked up an issue of JSA...)
You are missing what just might be the best book DC has on shelves right now.
Posted by Kent Shakespeare on :
quote:Originally posted by Sketch Lad: Well, I have no idea what's going on, but it's great to see Thom! (I've never picked up an issue of JSA...)
It's only the 2nd issue! Jump on board already! I'm lovin it.
Posted by Arachne on :
Me too, I'm totaly hooked. The Legion stuff's just icing.
Posted by Ultra Jorge on :
Is the JSA line-up bigger than the Legion's? Geoff Johns is the man!!!
Posted by MLLASH on :
JSoA # 1 was better than the 10 prior-to-# 24 issues of LSH combined! Add-in the MAJOR LSH continuity stuff going on there and it's a must-have!
But I've always had a soft spot for the Justice Society. They are right up there with LSH for sentimental favorites. And talk about UNDERDOGS... the successful late-90s relaunch had me cheering, and JSoA # 1 was even BETTER than before!
Posted by Ultra Jorge on :
LASH, I never liked the JSA. Just too old school for me.
Since #1 of their last series till now I rank them as one of my favorite team books. Up there with my Levitz Legion and Stern Avengers. And it's getting better.
I just think for a guy who never liked the JSA and now loves them...well I'm not the only one who got turned on to them. Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
Warms my heart to see so many people digging that JSA goodness.
Posted by superboymddjr on :
I see Nightstar, the Ray....others?? inthe background...
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
That's definitely Lamont Cranston in the lower right, The Shadow. He did make a cameo in Kingdom Come, a panel that, IIRC, featured some other detectives like Sherlock Holmes.
Posted by doublechinner on :
Wow. Haven't read this issue yet. But seeing the original Thom Kallor is much more emotional than I expected it to be. Thom and Garth were the original hard-luck heroes, weren't they? And now things have gotten so bad for Thom he's living in the loony bin, having escaped from the apocalypse of Kingdom Come. I wait with no small trepidation to see how/if this affects the current Legion. Does anyone know if Johns and Waid discuss this stuff with each other?
Posted by Kent Shakespeare on :
I've scoured through KC, and I couldn't find an image that matches it. I suspect it's not a reprint, but an original based on KC.
Posted by Uranus Lad on :
quote: That's definitely Lamont Cranston in the lower right, The Shadow. He did make a cameo in Kingdom Come, a panel that, IIRC, featured some other detectives like Sherlock Holmes.
Actually, that's Vigilante, see the gun arm and red bandana? Also aside from those already mentioned I see: Von Bach (large lower-left), Braniac's Daughter (small lower right), 666 (large right-side) and maybe Menagerie/Beast Boy (between Starman's legs). Also, that might be Man-Bat being blasted by Nightstar (not too sure on that one but he has wings). The rest is too muddy to discern.
Posted by Kid Prime on :
I just had a thought: Dawny is really perfect for this arc, and hats off to Johns. Who better to find Thom (if she were looking for him,) even across dimensions and times, than she?
Posted by Hunt Drouin on :
So, the Nazi Villain team in JSoA #2...is that the "first" appearance of Von Bach?
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
quote:Originally posted by Uranus Lad:
quote: That's definitely Lamont Cranston in the lower right, The Shadow. He did make a cameo in Kingdom Come, a panel that, IIRC, featured some other detectives like Sherlock Holmes.
Actually, that's Vigilante, see the gun arm and red bandana? Also aside from those already mentioned I see: Von Bach (large lower-left), Braniac's Daughter (small lower right), 666 (large right-side) and maybe Menagerie/Beast Boy (between Starman's legs). Also, that might be Man-Bat being blasted by Nightstar (not too sure on that one but he has wings). The rest is too muddy to discern.
Actually, The Shadow wore a red bandanna across his face that showed his nose while Vigilante always had his nose covered. That's why I thought it was The Shadow and not Vigilante. I can't recall ever seeing him (the Vigilante) with his nose showing.
Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
quote:Originally posted by doublechinner: Does anyone know if Johns and Waid discuss this stuff with each other?
Not sure.
Alex Ross has been consulting on this series, though, and will be drawing more KC stuff in later issues, I believe.
Posted by Superboy-Supergirl on :
remember kids that Kingdom Come's Earth had a Legion in it's future too with Superboy and Supergirl from the 20th century retreating to it. Starboy was there in the purple uniform that appeared in during zero hour so its not "our" thom from the levtiz years and b4...but that starboy from that future at least that's the way it makes more sense...cause our thom got absorbed into one with his younger self in the LSH 62 and disappeared into the time stream.
Posted by Superboy-Supergirl on :
FYI this version of thom is what got me into Muscle Bears as an adult GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
Posted by wamu2 on :
quote:Originally posted by Superboy-Supergirl: remember kids that Kingdom Come's Earth had a Legion in it's future too with Superboy and Supergirl from the 20th century retreating to it. Starboy was there in the purple uniform that appeared in during zero hour so its not "our" thom from the levtiz years and b4...but that starboy from that future at least that's the way it makes more sense...cause our thom got absorbed into one with his younger self in the LSH 62 and disappeared into the time stream.
you know, I really like this current legion. and I am looking forward to the showcase presents volumes. but every time one of you long time fans start talking about the time-trapper universe that crossed into zero hour, that was was rebooted five years later and a day, my head hurts.
I have to give you all kudos for loyalty, if this legion gets rebooted or time streamed or something, I will just drop it.
Posted by Superboy-Supergirl on :
lol im not talking about the post crisis legion. only a mention of it to say that this isnt "our" thom we knew and loved. just the one of the Kingdom Come one.
Posted by Tamper Lad on :
But Alex Ross has said more or less that this is the Levitz version.
I think he's aged a bit, been plucked and stranded in the Kingdom Come timeline where he spent a few years. When he was caught in the nuclear strike at the end of that miniseries he used his powers to warp reality to send him here.
By the way this isn't the first appearance of KC Starman in the main DCU. The last issue of Starman revealed that the post-zero hour Thom Kallor could also be the KC Star Man who goes by the name Danny Blaine.
Posted by Kent Shakespeare on :
quote:Originally posted by Superboy-Supergirl: remember kids that Kingdom Come's Earth had a Legion in it's future too with Superboy and Supergirl from the 20th century retreating to it. Starboy was there in the purple uniform that appeared in during zero hour so its not "our" thom from the levtiz years and b4...but that starboy from that future at least that's the way it makes more sense...cause our thom got absorbed into one with his younger self in the LSH 62 and disappeared into the time stream.
But the JSA Thom remebers Kenz Huhor, the 10-9 vote, Color Kid, and other things that Reboot Thom wouldn't.
Preboot Thom merged and vainished in v4#62, true... but what if JSA Thom is an earlier version of this Thom? Before End of an Era (well before, as he lacks 5YL Thom's paunch and receding hairline)?
If it is indeed pre-boot Thom, why would he have to have come from End of an Era... why not before? Waaaay before? (Before Dawnstar lost her wings, too)
Posted by Matthew E on :
Related to this, from a Legion point of view, is this Newsarama thread. It's a little spoilerlicious, but technically it's DC spoiling itself, so that's okay. If it's true, it's of tremendous importance.
Posted by MLLASH on :
WOW-- this news (in the link) is colossal! BIG, man!
Posted by rokk steady on :
Yep, hard to believe they would let that out unless there is more to it than the clue reveals...
Posted by Arachne on :
That's what I was thinking.
What gets me is the word "still".
Posted by the boy with UltraPowers on :
quote:Originally posted by MLLASH: WOW-- this news (in the link) is colossal! BIG, man!
the link won't open for me !!??
what does it say ??
Matthew.
Posted by the boy with UltraPowers on :
btw ..... i'm LOVING this new relauch !!
Dale's artwork is amazing, and i REALLY hope that the LEGION are the 3rd team featured in the JLA/JSA teamup !!??
Matthew.
Posted by Arachne on :
It says, and this comes from DC: Click Here For A SpoilerThe secret of fifty two is that the multiverse still exists. Posted by Sketch Lad on :
In my ZOE! thread, I mention that I've picked up #s 1 and 2. I'm delighted by the VERY preboot references Starman makes. I'm even now wondering/hoping to see the preboot Dream Girl! (Wish me luck!)
I think the story is great so far and the art is terrific! Some very, very excellent faces.
Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
Glad you're enjoying it!
Don't forget the huge Legion reference on the "preview" page of the JSA #1.
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