I went into the city today for an audition to be on a game show (Ok im a big spaz) anyway I saw the legion outpost book which knocked me for 6 I didn't think it was the sort of thing they would order. I have flicked through and it looks interesting a lot of the same picks that were in the companion but some new stuff. But I read the introduction where the interlac group was mentioned and I want to know who these shadow 50 individuals are and what they do exactly!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Comet King on :
What? What 50 people?
Let me know if it's any good. I'm sort of tempted, but on the other hand how interesting a bunch of ramblings from fan fic hacks from the 70s going to be?
What game show are you trying to get on? Good luck!
Posted by PolarBoy on :
Yeah I am having a bit of trouble putting some of it in context because It was long before my time and I have only vague ideas based on back bin finds what was happening at the time. But it is quiet interesting and a lot of the interviews back then were certainly more forth coming then they seem to be now so thats good also a lot of it is fun stuff about things like what star signs certain legionaires would be and stuff like that. I think if you liked the compainion book you will like this. As for interlac apparently it's a Legion fan club started back in the 70's with 50 members and apparently it's still going today with 50 members so I would guess somebody has to die or something for somebody to get in. The game show is a crappy one over her called the Einstine factor it's a general knowledge type thing.
Posted by Shadow Kid on :
The Einstein Factor?
Would you be Australian?
My grandpa went on that show.
Posted by MLLASH on :
quote:Originally posted by Comet King: how interesting a bunch of ramblings from fan fic hacks from the 70s going to be?
Comet, that's a rather flip way to refer to the organized fandom that saved the entire Legion franchise.
These guys worked hard and wrote some fascinating stuff. Many, many of their ideas eventually made it into the book.
I personally loved "THE BEST OF LEGION OUTPOST" but it probably won't be your cup of tea.
Posted by Paul Newell on :
quote:Originally posted by PolarBoy: I went into the city today for an audition to be on a game show (Ok im a big spaz) anyway I saw the legion outpost book which knocked me for 6 I didn't think it was the sort of thing they would order.
Did you go to Kings? They always get stuff like that. I ordered my copy through them.
Posted by PolarBoy on :
Yeah I went to kings. Sometimes there a bit hit or miss as far as I know they never got in archives 12 unless you order it so it surprised me a bit.
Posted by Jorg-El on :
MLASH, How did the Interlac guys save the Legion universe and what ideas made it into the book? I am guessing some of the ideas came during the v4 stuff?
thanks (btw never figured you for a BOP reader. doh!)
Jorge
Posted by Outdoor Miner on :
Definitely V4. Possibly earlier, but I can't recall.
Garth/Proty and Lar/Eltro Gand started off as fan-fic concepts, IIRC.
Posted by MLLASH on :
(Jorg-El, BoP is one of my top favorites. That book rocks.)
Short version: legend is that when the LSH lost the lead feature in ADVENTURE and went into ACTION as a backup, and then lost that too, it was the organized fans behind THE LEGION OUTPOST that clamored and carried on until their voices were heard, and the Legion went into Superboy as a backup. Then DC took a chance on a brand-new penciller named Dave Cockrum and history was made.
Posted by Vee on :
There's no question that it was the people at Legion Outpost, Interlac and other similar fan clubs(?) that were alrgely responsible for saving the Legion in the dark days after Adventure. They were boisterous, insistant, & determined. They kept up the pressure until DC took a chance on the Legion again.
BTW, Levitz (if I recall correctly) and other Legion big names (the Bierbaums etc) came up to the big leagues from Interlac & Outpost and other fan organizations so these groups had a major impact on our beloved Legion.
Posted by Director Lad on :
I'm not sure about Levitz, but Waid definitely came up through the fan ranks before actually working on the Legion professionally.
The Outpost book is actually very interesting. I would recommend it folks who have only been reading Legion since Zero Hour. It'll give them a better sense of the history of the book and why we're all so hung up on the Pre-boot team.
One big point: this is not a Fan Fic book. These are articles written by fans about various aspects of the Legion. Subjects covered include analysis of the length of the Legion timeline, summary of the various Legion couples, a theory about the lifespan of Coluans, and numerous creator interviews. The Giffen interview, though sadly truncated, is facinating for his insights into the various team members. It's really clear that he and Levitz went into their run on the book really wanting to give the characters much more distinct personalities, which I think is the most lasting legacy of their tenure on the book.
So, show the love for the fathers of Legion fandom and pick up this book. You won't regret it.
Posted by MLLASH on :
And don't forget the MOTHERS of Legion fandom... Mercy Van Vlack in that Cockrum Tinya outfit... Popping Hotties!!
Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
quote:Originally posted by MLLASH: And don't forget the MOTHERS of Legion fandom... Mercy Van Vlack in that Cockrum Tinya outfit... Popping Hotties!!
I don't think I'm getting the reference! Is there some hottie that I'm not aware of in a Tinya outfit? Help your online your little brother and let him lay his eyes on this!
Posted by MLLASH on :
There's pics galore in the BEST OF... OUTPOST collection!
Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
I've already got it in my reserve pile and will be picking it up for Christmas! Pics of hot women in Tinya outfits mean will make it feel like I'm celebrating Chanukah and Quanza too now!
Posted by Nightcrawler on :
Here's a pic I supplied Glen (not sure yet if he used it )...
Posted by Pariscub on :
it's really a good book, and a fantastic companion to the first Legion book they published:!
Posted by Faraway Lad on :
Gary, that picture is on page 83, or at least one very like it.
As for the book I have to admit i didnt order it. But the guys at the CBS put one aside for me anyway and on the first flick through I have to say I'm pleased they did. It looks as if this is going to be a fascinting read.
Or and Cobie, its has one of the hottest Grell Tinya's I seen in a month of Sundays Posted by Nightcrawler on :
quote:Originally posted by Faraway Lad: Gary, that picture is on page 83, or at least one very like it.
Thanks! I wonder why Twomorrows is taking so long to mail it out. Any other mailers waiting? And it turns out my shop didn't order one for me. Posted by Comet King on :
I actuallly went ahead and bought this.
It's quite interesting. Some of the fan articles are really well written and interesting. I think it's a testament to how crap the 5 Year Gap was though that I only "got" the Mon-El/Eltro Gand thing when I read this book. It also shows the Bierbaums wrote for the long term fans rather than newbies - maybe explaining why I found their run such hard going.
Some of it was interesting, other bits were bizarre. I kind of found it weird that they printed so much about that four eyed fat bird in the Phantom Girl costume.
[ December 05, 2004, 04:11 AM: Message edited by: Comet King ]
Posted by Harbinger on :
quote:Originally posted by Comet King: I kind of found it weird that they printed so much about that four eyed fat bird in the Phantom Girl costume.
Like I bet you're an oil painting Max, yeah right!
Posted by Comet King on :
Yes. I'm gorgeous.
Seriously though, I don't get why (if you're 20 stone overweight) you'd wear something like that.
Posted by MLLASH on :
She wasn't fat, she was well-endowed.
There's lots of Mercy Van Vlack in the book because she was the femme going to the events and gatherings the most, I suppose. I would have liked to have seen pictures of femme-fans supreme Carol Strickland and Margie Spears too.
Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
quote:Originally posted by Comet King: I actuallly went ahead and bought this.
Some of it was interesting, other bits were bizarre. I kind of found it weird that they printed so much about that four eyed fat bird in the Phantom Girl costume.
Andrew, that's a pretty mean-spirited and disrespectful thing to say about someone else involved in Legion fandom. I know that you enjoy spending the majority of your time here trying to come across as crude and obnoxious, but do you think it would be at all possible to hold back on comments as personnally insulting as this?
In addition to enjoying the Legion, we do like to enjoy each other too, you know?
[ December 06, 2004, 07:55 AM: Message edited by: Cobalt Kid ]
Posted by Krypton King on :
The Futile Five was worth the price of admission on it's own.
Hembeck's Legion was hilarious too.
My favorite piece of artwork was Ultra Boy by Neal Adams.
This goes very nicely with my Legion and All-Star Companions.
Posted by Comet King on :
quote:Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: I know that you enjoy spending the majority of your time here trying to come across as crude and obnoxious,
Crude and obnoxious? How f***ing dare you!!
Seriously though, I said one little thing about the reboot probably being a crap idea and everyone here decides they hate me! *Sob* I *choke* thought you guys were my friends *sniff*
As for Giganta - I'm only saying what everyone else is thinking!
[ December 06, 2004, 11:59 AM: Message edited by: Comet King ]
Posted by Fat Cramer on :
CK, please don't persist in calling somebody names. Weren't you concerned a while back about some unintended-for-publication comment you made that got into the newspaper and hurt somebody's feelings? If you wonder who the woman in the Tinya outfit is and why she merits a place in the Outpost book, just ask - don't throw in some exaggerated crack about how you think she looks. Certainly not "everybody is thinking" the way you are.
Posted by Nightcrawler on :
Comet King, since I consider Mercy as a part of our extended family of Legion fandom and I have asked that you refrain from these personal insults in the past, please consider this a very public announcement of your being banned as CK and as your other ID here.
Sorry you did not feel the need to be a part of our community enough to be civil.
Posted by profh0011 on :
I read the book in 2 days flat. That really says something to me! Lots of great art (pro & fan), lots of great interviews (including that raving egomaniac Mort Weisinger, and a previously-unpublished one from 25 years ago with Keith Giffen). Loads of "speculative" articles dealing with explaining various Legion mysteries (several of which wound up in the actual comics later on-- and not always for the better). It's a terrific package.
For anyone unfamiliar, the LEGION OUTPOST gang, from what I gather, evolved into INTERLAC, a Legion Amatreur Press Alliance. APAs are "fan-clubs-by-mail". Every 2 months you send in a "zine" with art, stories, articles, comments. A "Central Mailer" collates all the packages and each member gets back a "Mailing" containing a copy of EACH member's zines. What a wild, crazy way to communicate, share your love for things, and even make friends.
I should know-- I've been in the OTHER Legion APA since 1991-- KLORDNY. There's only a few mentions of it in the book (understandable), but I got a kick out of the fact that the ONE Klordny member who was mentioned by name (and had his comments included) was Kevin Hawkins, who joined the same time as I did, and who I spend every other weekend on the phone with in marathon B.S. sessions. Far out!
Posted by PolarBoy on :
I now feel a bit bad that I started a thread that got somebody kicked out but he was being quiet harsh. I still working my was through the book it's quiet interesting.
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