What follows are some preview images and synopsis for this coming Saturday's (10/27) new episode of the Legion of Super-Heroes cartoon, entitled "Karate Kid". Images and synopsis provided by the WB.
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The "Legion of Super Heroes" expands its ranks again this Saturday, October 27 in an all-new episode entitled "The Karate Kid."
When the dreaded Legion Auditions produce just one potential new member Nemesis Kid Superman goes out recruiting, and finds an unlikely candidate to join the Legion. A perpetual underdog, Karate Kid has no super powers which goes against Legion membership rules but Superman believes he has the heart to join the Legion. As the Legion hunts down Grimbor the Chainsman, Karate Kid believes he can be an asset, while the others worry he is only putting himself in harm¹s way. Keith Ferguson ("Foster¹s Home For Imaginary Friends") voices both Karate Kid and Nemesis Kid. Eddie Guzelian wrote the episode, which was directed by Brandon Vietti and Scott Jeralds. "The Karate Kid" episode of "Legion of Super Heroes" airs Saturday, October 27 at 11:00 a.m. ET/PT as part of the Kids' WB! Lineup on The CW Network.
Grimbor the Chainsman is the key villain in the October 27 "Legion of Super Heroes" episode, "The Karate Kid."
The title character of the October 27 "Legion of Super Heroes" episode, "The Karate Kid."
Nemesis Kid is the lone survivor of auditions for the Legion of Super Heroes in the October 27 episode entitled "The Karate Kid."
Posted by Lurker Lass on :
On Nemesis Kid being "the lone survivor" - the wording there is chilling, but I'm hoping they mean figuratively. (If not, well, then I guess there's your reason for hunting down Grimbor. Ghurr.)
Val's sandals are very cute and I want to own them please. He looks Asian! Posted by Omni Craig on :
How the heck did I miss this thread? I just put links to this same stuff on the "KK & Who else" thread.
I swear, when I look at Nemesis Kid's face, it screams of "Jimmy Olsen if he was a redneck".
And where the heck is Val's collar????
[ October 26, 2007, 04:58 PM: Message edited by: Omni Craig ]
Posted by What Was Wrong With the Reboot? Lad on :
the scans are sweet! Karate Kid looks Asian! Nemesis Kid has shaggy hair! the third scan is perfect! nothing like a kick in the face to get you pumped for Saturday! (and Val's shoes are pretty cool, where can i get a pair??)
i have always. ALWAYS been interested in Nemesis Kid. not just for his powers. but for his character too. i always thought it might be cool to have him join with good intentions but eventually go bad due to a difference of opinion (like, he thinks it's ok to use lethal force) or he loses control of his powers and kills a fellow legionnaire...
i am really looking forward to this episode. KK is going to be great (possibly even the best around! nothing's gonna ever keep him down!) and they have not done wrong with characters so far *knocks on wood*.
and i don't think what we see so far is his final costume, doesn't he have a collar in the opening credits?
Posted by Tromium on :
To quote Lightning Lad: "Sweet!"
Funny they made KK so small in stature but I guess it's part of the "underdog" thing.
No snake sightings yet, huh?
Posted by l.e.g.i.o.n.JOHN on :
that pic of Grimbor kinda looks like the current incarnation of Bane from "The Batman"
Posted by Lightning Lad on :
Four more new images:
Lightning Lad gets more than he bargaiined for in a battle with Grimbor the Chainsman during the October 27 episode of "Legion of Super Heroes" entitled "The Karate Kid."
Lightning Lad, Superman, Timber Wolf and Cosmic Boy are caught by Grimbor the Chainsman in the October 27 "Legion of Super Heroes" episode, "The Karate Kid."
The title character of the October 27 "Legion of Super Heroes" episode, "The Karate Kid."
New Legion recruit Nemesis Kid reveals his power during the October 27 episode of "Legion of Super Heroes" entitled "The Karate Kid."
Posted by Haggard Lad on :
Karate Kid AND Nemesis Kid? Neat!
Posted by MLLASH on :
*sigh*
I know I should be... and AM... greatful that a LSH 'toon even exists at ALL, but... No lasses in the releases?
Ah, well... it's still awesome to see Grimbor, K-Kid and Nemesis Kid... it's amazing, really.
Posted by Malvolio on :
I liked it this morning, but yeah, no lasses in this episode? Those kids in the focus groups should be reminded of an arcade game called Gauntlet. I used to play with three friends of mine and one of us had to play as the Valkyrie (sp?). Didn't mind doing it, because the game was so cool. Same thing with the Storm and Dazzler characters in the original X-Men arcade game.
I really hope they're not basing the casting on a single focus group that thought girls are "icky."
Posted by Dairaioh on :
Good episode, its just that I think they got KK's personality wrong. If I remember correctly the Pre-boot KK was a knuckle-head. This iteration of him was humble. Oh well it worked. I really like Cham now. He may be a Beast-boy rip off, but he is more mature, relatively speaking of course. I don't mnd his quips and one liners, and his personality stands out. Last gripe. Cosmic jerk. I believe in adherence to protocol, but hes being a jerk. Let's count the evidence:
1. Crappy apology to Timberwolf.
2. Speech about KK not being able to take care of himself
3. Being harsh to Cham.
4. Giving KK laundry duty.
There are probably others, but I can't remember any more for the time being. I'm sure Cos won't fail to meet my expectations though. I'm beginning to lose more respect for him with each passing episode.
Posted by Tromium on :
Wow, the most suprising thing here was Nemisis Kid *not* being a traitor -- though I wouldn't rule it out for later. I was waiting for the revelation that NK and Grimbor were in cahoots, and was actually a little disappointed the only connection was Grimbor copycating NK's neutralizing powers. I guess it worked ok for the story but I was so looking forward to Karate Kid smacking NK, it came as a bit of a letdown to see him battling Grimbor instead.
I enjoyed the back-and-forth between Cham and Val, and Cham's cynicism made it easier to digest KK's over-the-counter philosophical ramblings. KK himself leaned too much towards the Zen postboot Kid than the original scrapper for my taste, but as long as he's teamed with a foil like Cham, I'm can live with it. His fight with Superman was nice homage to the old Shooter story and the outcome was more believable ("disqualified for leaving the ring"). His accent sounded more like Asian Indian to me than Japanese, though, and the laundry thing hit a sour note. I don't think the Legion would ever insult Superman by treating his hand-picked choice like a servant.
Rule-breaking Cham was also a good foil for Cosmic Boy, who as Dairaioh pointed out continues to be typecast as the inflexible and mostly unpleasant authority figure. (Eh, it serves him right for three years of gross over-exposure in the comic book). LL got the best line with "Talk to the hand" and had an all too brief but funny turn with *Calamity King* -- who shockingly was not blonde (someone should be fired for that!). Hopefully, Element Lad's three-second cameo portends a bigger role in the future. It was good to see Dream Girl again, but iirc not one speaking role in this episode for a girl. Why don't they just get it over with and put *all* the girls in a coma?
It's probably my least favorite episode of the stellar second season but it was still quite good.
[ October 27, 2007, 01:13 PM: Message edited by: Tromium ]
Posted by Tromium on :
Sorry, double post.
Posted by Yellow Kid on :
Re: SPOILER WARNING
The spoilers are about to get started.
Lash! We get a glimpse of Comet Queen in the early moments of the show! How's that?
Calamity King sounds like Elvis.
Karate Kid's a midget! Either that or Kryptonians are freakishly tall..hhmmm...
Lightning Lad, "Talk to the hand" -snort-
Nemesis Kid's a jerk (big surprise, eh?) but he's cool to KK at the end.
Lurker Lass 'called it'..twice.
Grimbor works. I always thought he was a pretty lame villain in the comics but he's dangerous in the cartoon. Cool.
Nemesis Kid "Neutralizes Super Powers" and he's a cop. It looks like he and Cos get along nicely. Oh yeah, Cos is being a pompous jerk, "This isn't the Legion of Guys Who Try Really Hard."
We get a good look at Element Lad though he doesn't get any dialogue, same with Dream Girl and Tyroc.
I was really prepared to hate Nemesis Kid and he's written just so I got what I wanted right up to the last of the show. Cham almost dies from jealousy when NK is the golden boy of the moment but in turn he helps save the day later by following Val's advice and then NK sort of apologizes to KK for being such a seventh planet. I grew up reading these comics and him being an evil, treasonous, back biting snake and wasn't expecting a gesture of comeraderie toward Val. Very nice touch.
I hope the kids like this 'cause I love it.
I didn't get everything I wanted out of this episode but I still got a heck of a lot more than I expected.
This was fun.
Posted by Mystery Lad on :
Yeah- I like the fact that we're left not knowing quite to think about Nemesis Kid. Notice that we didn't hear his whole oath, unlike Karate Kid? That makes me think that a traitor storyline (he's probably in cahoots with Imperiax) is coming. But, who knows? That's why we watch.
I liked KKid's into. To me, it actually makes more sense than his initial tryout in the comics. I appreciated his will and spirit, like Superman. I'm not crazy about *one* Legionnaire inducting a member, however. (Shades of Monstress...)
Sigh. More Cosmic Jerk. Producers, writers, *please* inject a bit of reboot Cos-- or 'classic' Cos and *don't* characterize him solely from the current iteration.
At this rate, kids'll think of him as a villain soon.
Best shot of Element Lad we've seen yet, I think. Here's hoping that he, Dream Girl, Blok, Tyroc and Sun Boy will get their chance to emerge from the Silent Brigade before long.
I enjoyed Cham, but he's beginning to hog the spotlight, when tons of other characters need some screen-time (see the Silent Brigade).
The inferred sexism (I'm lumping the Happy Meal toys in here) is counter to everything the LSH stands for. I hope this episode is an isolated instance (Girl's Night Out- for balance?). If not, the producers, writers and DC should be ashamed.
I hope focus groups haven't dictated this as a new direction. Saturn Girl's coma suddenly looms as way more important than I initially thought. Just consider her role in the first decade of the team's adventures. Compare and contrast with her animated characterization. Sad.
I hate focus groups and the way money-men use them to quash creativity.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Yay! Calamity King was so awesome!
Er... and I think some other stuff happened in the episode, too...
Posted by l.e.g.i.o.n.JOHN on :
hey did anyone else notice Wildfire's insignia during KK's induction oath?
Posted by Rockhopper Lad on :
"Lacking-A-Grip-On-Reality Lad"!!!!!
That's a keeper! Posted by Lurker Lass on :
Still waitin' on a revolt of the girl legionnaires. Calamatiy kind was a treat, though. Awesome.
Considering that the post-boot Karate Kids were much more zen than the pre-boot, I don't mind the characterization so much. (Actually, might make more sense, even if it is coupled a dime-bag of philosophical liners.) Playing him off Cham kept it from being too annoying.
Speaking of, I'm actually liking this younger, slightly inept Cham. I mean, it's not like the version we're used to in the comics, but he seems much less one-dimensional than Beast Boy was. Shape-shifters do have the ability to be a ridiculously versatile. (I guess that's why most DC shifters have some sort of limitation? Like BB is only animals, Plastic Man is plastic, colours don't usually change...)
I kinda wish Nemesis Kid had his 'develop powers to combat any opponent' instead of just neutralizing, even if it is potentially overkill. (Me? Hypocrisy? Perish the thought...) Like this, he'd be useless against people without powers as well, wouldn't he? And he doesn't even have a bondage fetish to help in combat. I do like the potential set-up for a future 'traitor in the Legion' storyline.
Superman's decision to recruit at a down-and-dirty tournament brawl is a bit questionable - I mean, I'm sure these guys are tough as nails, but I doubt that half the fighters there were Legion material.
By the way, did Grimbor... like, die at the end or something? There were explosions and I didn't see anyone take him into custody...
Posted by DrakeB3004 on :
quote:Originally posted by l.e.g.i.o.n.JOHN: hey did anyone else notice Wildfire's insignia during KK's induction oath?
*I DID!!* (though I think it was when they were talking about the team beimg stretched thin fighting Imperiex) It's so mean to tease ... I guess that means we won't get a big origin/induction episode though
Nice touch with the whole "let's task the useless asian kid to laundry duty" thing
And if Karate Kid appears again still sounding like a fortune cookie, I'm gonna have to hate him (It was almost as bad as DnA's "Think fast" motto with Brin)
Posted by Quislet, Esq. on :
When I saw Calamity King, I thought "Eryk is going to be soooo happy."
I was able to make excuses for Cosmic Boy before this episode. I really don't like him being that big of a jerk. It is one thing to reject a candidate for not having powers. It is another to rub it in their face.
When they announced Nemesis Kid's power as negating super-powers, I thought "Good thing they'll have non-powered Karate Kid on hand." I was expecting him to turn traitor this episode and it was a pleasant surprize when he didn't. We all know that he will eventually. I hope they use NK in several episodes as a good guy before he reveals his true colors.
I wish Cham had escaped from Grimbor's chains by turning into something small. Maybe even a throw away line referencing Shrinking Violet. The double jointed bit seem stupid.
And they have a big recruitment drive and only get one new member? (KK wasn't part of the recruitment drive) You think they would have picked 3-4 new members seeing as they were stretched thin.
Posted by MLLASH on :
I recorded it... just watched... must respond before reading other comments...
Hipster Calamity King-- complete with nelly green cap-- TOTALLY RULED! The LSH31C comic listed him as a member, so I'll wager he pops up again. An unexpected highlight of this episode!
Nemesis Kid-- totally cute! Anyone else think after he said, "Nice toy" to Grimbor that he was going to be revealed as a traitor, in cahoots with big G? Didn't happen though... YET.
Cosmic Boy-- continues his trend of being an insufferable ass. The writers are definitely drawing upon his Grell and WaK-era appearances.
Karate Kid-- He's way kewl. I'm digging him.
The lack of lasses-- So, the bratlings have finally done away with speaking roles for the girls alltogether. Nice way to get them reduced to cameos only, brats. Stupid pre-tweens. Makes me giddy to think that in, like, 8 years they'll be BEGGING girls to go out with them... the ones that aren't homos, anyway. BAH!!!
I'm making it my personal cause to get the femme roles in the Tooniverse upped big-time. First order of business: We need a heavy-hitting femme on the team, STAT. I'm calling for Andromeda ("Valor-Girl" costume only!) or Dawnstar. Still, these 2 attractive powerful ladies might threaten the bratlings. How about Monstress? She might be perfect. I dunno yet. But this MUST change! Perhaps a "girls night out" episode is in order?
Now must read other comments!!!
Posted by Doctor One on :
I HATE that Cos keeps being portrayed as a jerk. Nice episode otherwise. And yes, I miss the girls, too.
Posted by Sketch Lad on :
Oops! I read all the comments before I made mine! Oh well. A lot of my thoughts have been mentioned already by others.
I don't mind when they repeat little personality traits like Vi's snort or KK's "obstacles bring solutions" thing. I didn't mind "think fast" in the books, either. I was impressed by how each of the characters have such distinct personalities. At firt I thought "Cosmic Jerk" but I have to admit that I like it. I like that he's maintaining standards and keeping ideals. Yeah, kinda curt about it, but effective. I mean, the early Legion was fond of the word "REJECTED!"
I'm bothered by the lack of girls, too. Dream Girl has never been more than background decoration and I'm way past ready for her spotlight story. I hate that Imra's in a coma all this time! :teardrop:
Still, the 10 year old fanboy inside of me was thrilled by this episode. Great action, great characterization. The 41 year old me approves!
Posted by MLLASH on :
quote:Originally posted by Malvolio: I really hope they're not basing the casting on a single focus group that thought girls are "icky."
I'm afraid this IS what is happening, which totally enrages me! How can we let them know that adults are watching, too?
Posted by MLLASH on :
quote:Originally posted by Yellow Kid:
Lash! We get a glimpse of Comet Queen in the early moments of the show! How's that?
Calamity King sounds like Elvis.
Nemesis Kid's a jerk (big surprise, eh?) but he's cool to KK at the end.
I missed Comet Queen but have it on tape and will certainly rewind to look for her and others. This is where WaK missed the boat in re-introing long-unseen faves to get fans buzzing.
Calamity King ruled!!
And I appreciated Nem Kid's gesture at the end... it could make his eventual betrayal all the worse.
Or... will they take the enexpected route and keep him as a good guy? I almost can't imagine this, considering the setup. It's like it's perfect for the season finale, when Nem Kid neutralizes Supes at a pivitol moment and K-Kid takes him down.
Posted by Colossal Boy on :
I was really disappointed with this version of Karate Kid, as I was expecting an interpretation more like the classic KK (all over the place now in LS and Countdown) or the WaK KK. Instead we get a KK who looks about as on par with Ralph Macchioo from the '80's movie instead of KK who can go par-to-par with Batman. Maybe they downplayed KK's abilities to keep him more distinct from Timber Wolf.
I also found his "solution" catch-phrase rather annoying in how often it was repeated. The whole KK part of the episode reminded too much first-season Super Friends ep (Wendy/Marvin) where each episode had to have an uplifting heavy-handed message.
Cosmic Boy is becoming all but unsufferable, although I wonder if the producers here are doing this intentionally and building a story arc around it? Like someone else said here, I've pretty well lost respect for Cosmic Boy as leader - mainly because of his rub-your-face-in-it attitude. So has it been officially stated yet this season that Cos is current leader?
Is it just speculation, or do we have some evidence that the focus groups are the cause of the lack of girls this season? Cuz I sure want to see Shadow Lass show up!
Good things about the episode - the tryout scene
more Dream Girl and Vi cameos
Element Lad - when did he bulk up so?
Tyroc - ironic that he's been mute in all his appearances so far
the Wildfire insignia - hopefully that was intentionally put there and not just because it was a cool looking insignia. Isn't Dawnstar scheduled to appear later this season? Maybe we'll get a Wildfire and Legion Academy story out of it.
Nemesis Kid - they just have to building an arc here where he betrays the team to Imperiex.
Posted by Colossal Boy on :
Oh forgot this before hitting send -
On the team being stretched thin, since they went back for Superman why not go back for someone else?
Do the producers have the rights to use Supergirl? I think that would be so cool to see the super cousins in action in one episode, and Kara might be the character high profile enough to break the no girls theme this season.
Posted by wamu2 on :
once again another good episode.
and Cos. wow. if he were in a 3 Stooges skit, he would be due for a pie in the face.
liked Karate Kid and Nemesis Kid. when I saw power neutralizer gun, I instantly thought he was working with the bad guys.
enjoyed the tryouts. to bad they couldn't show more people.
Posted by Awesomegirl on :
Well, this episode was no "Chained Lightning," but a really good episode nonetheless.
I was hoping they wouldn't go with an Asian accent for Karate Kid, but it didn't annoy me too much. I really liked it when he kicked Grimbor's ass(who was a really cool villain, by the way)and he and Chameleon Boy make a great team.
Speaking of Cham, I'm liking him more and more by the episode. He actually does make me laugh and is smart, too. If only somebody on the show would call him CB3.
As for CB1, he should just go away. Now. And the first battle scene did seem a little sloppy, it's like they weren't even trying. It also sucks that we didn't get to see more Legion rejects.
Oh, and one more thing. When KK was swinging that cleaning-the-floors thing(or whatever it was called) around, was anyone else thinking "Wax on, wax off?"
Posted by Razorsaw on :
Guys, I'm going to have to stick up for Cosmic Boy here, at least from a writing standpoint. In both the episode involving Timber Wolf and this one, we NEEDED someone riding the characters' ass. That's what creates conflict in stories like this, and there's not really much to do in either of these stories if there isn't conflict like this to drive the characters affected and make them go against the odds. Cos was characterized in his first appearance as more rigid and overly focused, so in the case of his appearances this season, they fit the mythos as presented so far.
There's the larger story to look at for each episode, and characters have to play necessary roles accordingly. And not all of them end up sunny and nice.
Posted by Yellow Kid on :
Good point Raz. We need an episode where we get to see that Rokk's as human as everyone else and that he pushes the others so hard because _____________ (fill in the blank) I liked him being chummy with Nemesis Kid (the Snark Squad).
Wierd how Superman and Chameleon Boy walked away from the group while NK was being sworn in though.
Posted by Razorsaw on :
Well, they had a job to do.
And I'm not sure Cosmic Boy is snarky. He's just a royal hard ass. He's not doing this to be cruel, and when he did that "what have we learned today?" bit, he was trying to have is point proven.
Posted by Nightcrawler on :
If the screen where Superman says their ranks have been thinned is to be believed then Chemical King, Ultra Boy, Wildfire, Invisible Kid, and Quislet have joined in the missing year or two along with Cham. (Of course there's two Star Boys as well.)
Posted by MLLASH on :
Just what we needed-- more boys!
heh... I'm starting to sound like Thora. Of Taltar, not the one Sun Emperor roasted.
Posted by Nightcrawler on :
Shadow Lass (for her alienness and easy to animate powers) and Princess Projectra (for her girl demographic and toy tie-in possibilities) are the two females that surprise me the most by not even being in the background.
Posted by Awesomegirl on :
Well, Nightcrawler, it doesn't look like Princess Projectra will appear since Saturn Girl pretty much has the same power(they might decide to show her anyway, but I'm just saying). But I have a feeling they're saving Shadow Lass for something big(Please, please, please let that be the case. If this series ends without Shadow Lass appearing, then I'm going to be pissed).
As for what Razorsaw posted, I guess Cosmic Boy's characterization does make sense when you look at it from that perspective, but that doesn't make it any less annoying.
Posted by Dain on :
This week's episode:
Animation: Fantastic! Karate Kid, Grimbor, Nemesis Kid: Fantastic! Male Legionnaires: Great! Plot: Typical. Tryouts: Just one measly scene. Wanted more. Female Legionnaires: Just background decorations. Would it *kill* the cartoon creators to have Dreamy utter one lousy phrase? Would it be so terrible to have the male Legionnaires even mention Saturn Girl's condition and show some affection for her?
All in all: Good episode, of course, but the absence of female Legionnaires is annoying. I hope I don't "sound" like a fault-finding nitpicker,I love the cartoon, but...well, you know!
Posted by Nightcrawler on :
Clips plus next week's promo.
Posted by Colossal Boy on :
I never made the marketing connection unit Nightcrawler mentioned it, but the Legion has a character who is a Princess AND a super hero - Disney would just love to be in that situation. It's a marketing no-brainer. Of course brains are in short supply at the CW it seems.
I suspect that if we do get Jeckie on the show, she will probably show up as Sensor Girl. And it better not be as a snake!
Posted by Sketch Lad on :
I feel like repeating my support of Drill Sgt. Rokk.
Posted by Longevity Lad on :
No fan of focus-group-driven decisions either, but reflect on this: the intent is to increase ratings points to increase profits from advertisers who in turn demand more shows on which to peddle product which will lead to MORE episodes and that's a GOOD THING, right?
Posted by Matthew E on :
quote:Originally posted by Colossal Boy: I never made the marketing connection unit Nightcrawler mentioned it, but the Legion has a character who is a Princess AND a super hero - Disney would just love to be in that situation. It's a marketing no-brainer.
That's a really good point! Man. Jeckie could pretty much carry her own show. With Val, I suppose. Imagine that!
Posted by Yellow Kid on :
SPOILER! . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
(just in case you haven't paid any attention to multiple spoiler warnings already)
Posted by Yellow Kid on :
oops
Posted by MLLASH on :
quote:Originally posted by Matthew E:
quote:Originally posted by Colossal Boy: I never made the marketing connection unit Nightcrawler mentioned it, but the Legion has a character who is a Princess AND a super hero - Disney would just love to be in that situation. It's a marketing no-brainer.
That's a really good point! Man. Jeckie could pretty much carry her own show. With Val, I suppose. Imagine that!
As long as they don't frag it up by intro-ing her as a funny-animal snake princess.. talk about "girls are icky"-- SHEESH! Unfortunately, the LSH31C lettercol pretty much confirms a Jeckie-Snake hybrid of some sort. *wail!!*
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
Hmm... I wouldn't have a problem with Princess Projectra having a funny-talking-snake sidekick!
Posted by Mystery Lad on :
Named Sensor? Or Jeka? Maybe Windsor... Hmmm... or Orakill
Posted by Mystery Lad on :
Or it could *be* an Orakill from Orando!
Posted by doublechinner on :
A lot of this episode really made sense, from a story-telling point of view. Superman's idea to look for recruits on K-19 is smart. His ready acceptance of Karate Kid also makes sense--presumably this Supes is familiar with the likes of Batman and Green Arrow in his home time period, so he knows what KK is capable of. The setup for the climax made total sense -- ONLY someone without powers could defeat Grimbor. Even if we never see KK again in the cartoon, we know the essentials about his personal story from this episode. Very taut, concentrated storytelling.
It's also not unexpected that the other Legionnaires would be dismissive about a non-powered member. They're jerks here, but, they have a long history of jerkitude in the comics. Nemesis Kid may not yet be revealed as a villain, but he sure is creepy. Cos should watch his back. Finally, Tucker and company show that there are no bad villains, just bad creative teams. Portrayed this way, Grimbor is a perfect foil for a super-team--he focuses on neutralizing his individual opponents. He sort of reminds me of Deathstroke in that respect. Great job rehabilitating a character whose sole purpose seemed to be bondage innuendo when he was created 30+ years ago.
Posted by MLLASH on :
Okay, so I had to freeze-frame Calamity King's appearance to bask in it for a few minutes... am now beating down the urge to begin an "all-Calamity King's nelly tiara insignia and thigh-high boots" thread! He's so HEP, so ROCK STAR... LOVE him!
Posted by lil'rhino on :
I'm sorry, but I'm lovin' mean,iron-butt Cos! Every team needs one!
And what's all this about no femmes being featured in this episode? Nemesis Kid,with that pronounced lisp of his, couldn't have been any MORE femme!
Posted by He Who Wanders on :
I SOOOO enjoyed this episode! Everything worked, from the introduction of Karate Kid to Nemesis Kid not being a traitor (yet?); from Grimbor as a badass villain to Chameleon Boy (or Cham, as he now seems to be officially called) trying to prove himself; from Cos being the hard liner to the reinterpretation of KK's tryout match with Superman. Cartoon perfection.
It's easy to find fault with the lack of girls in this episode, but I'm hoping this is an isolated instance. In fact, very few Legionnaires were present -- even Timber Wolf had a few lines but little to do -- as the focus was on Cham and KK and, to a lesser extent, NK. To populate the story with more characters, even girls, just for the sake of having them present would have weighed the story down.
Karate Kid fills a necessary role here, as he always has: He's the hero who worked hard to get where he was and whose determination won out over prejudice (over his lack of super-powers, natch; but it's telling that he has always been at least part Asian). The other Legionnaires are the elite, the cool kids, and the jocks who can't understand what it's like to be "normal". KK is around to show them the blindspot in their thinking. But he's not perfect; in the cartoon, he briefly gives in to cynicism when he learns he's being sent home. But, in tried and true TV fashion, he's also the one who spots the clue about the trap the Legionnaires have fallen into. Naturally, he's also the one who saves the day.
Cham, too, is fun to watch. There was even a brief moment when I saw a hint of his preboot personality. When he said he was going to get a reputation for disobeying orders, he echoed the Cham who secretly helped Ultra Boy when the latter was accused of murder, and who infiltrated Starfinger's organization by himself without even telling his teammates. I can see that mature version of Cham as a possible outcome for this very young seed.
Nemesis Kid was the real surprise. Like everyone else, I was astonished when he didn't reveal his true colors when Grimmy said that he was the inspiration for his power-neutralizing doohickey. Even more astonishing, NK extends an apology toward Karate Kid -- a gesture that seems beyond Cosmic Boy. I don't believe for a moment that NK is truly a good guy, but his eventual betrayal is going to make one hell of a story.
Cartoon perfection doesn't come along very often in comic book adaptations. But when it does come, it's a beautiful thing!
Posted by Portfolio Boy on :
quote:Originally posted by MLLASH: He's so HEP, so ROCK STAR... LOVE him!
Speaking of rock star, was it me, or did EDE have a very Elvis-like twang to his voice?
Posted by Malvolio on :
quote:Originally posted by doublechinner: A lot of this episode really made sense, from a story-telling point of view. Superman's idea to look for recruits on K-19 is smart. His ready acceptance of Karate Kid also makes sense--presumably this Supes is familiar with the likes of Batman and Green Arrow in his home time period, so he knows what KK is capable of. The setup for the climax made total sense -- ONLY someone without powers could defeat Grimbor. Even if we never see KK again in the cartoon, we know the essentials about his personal story from this episode. Very taut, concentrated storytelling.
It's also not unexpected that the other Legionnaires would be dismissive about a non-powered member. They're jerks here, but, they have a long history of jerkitude in the comics. Nemesis Kid may not yet be revealed as a villain, but he sure is creepy. Cos should watch his back. Finally, Tucker and company show that there are no bad villains, just bad creative teams. Portrayed this way, Grimbor is a perfect foil for a super-team--he focuses on neutralizing his individual opponents. He sort of reminds me of Deathstroke in that respect. Great job rehabilitating a character whose sole purpose seemed to be bondage innuendo when he was created 30+ years ago.
But doesn't the leather mask lend even more to the bondage innuendo?
Posted by Yellow Kid on :
I hope he shows up with Charma next time. The girls to the rescue!
Posted by Omni Craig on :
quote:Originally posted by Portfolio Boy:
quote:Originally posted by MLLASH: He's so HEP, so ROCK STAR... LOVE him!
Speaking of rock star, was it me, or did EDE have a very Elvis-like twang to his voice?
Definite Elvis twang there. Thenkyewverrymuhh.
Posted by Lad Boy on :
This was the first episode of this series that I have truly enjoyed without any reservation.
Posted by Novelty on :
Wait... so Nemesis Kid is now a Legionaire... who wonders how long he'll last before he betrays the Legion?
Posted by Malvolio on :
The clock is ticking.
Posted by Dairaioh on :
Will Nemesis kid's betrayal lead to the death of KK?
Posted by Malvolio on :
I think that might happen only after they introduce Projectra.
Posted by Quislet, Esq. on :
Haven't they already had their death this season with White?
Posted by Malvolio on :
There's a death quota for the show now?
Posted by Dairaioh on :
Nah, Its just that If they want to be some what true to the comic then its gonna happen. Plus a death hear and there means that people may take the show a little more seriously. Just please don't kill Kell. I know that most people here hate him , but I don't.
Posted by Ultra Jorge on :
I just watched this and loved it.
KK was a bit too puny though. I love how the cartoon writers user Legion material and craft these cartoons. Maybe one of them should write the Legion!
Great and exciting episode. Loved the dialogue and action!
Posted by Yellow Kid on :
quote:Originally posted by Dairaioh: Just please don't kill Kell. I know that most people here hate him , but I don't.
Nah. I don't hate him. I actually hope at the end of this season we see Kell-X get sent back to a brighter happier future.
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