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^ Ditto. He's done some pretty good work elsewhere (like Warlord and Green Arrow) but I found his Legion work to be very middle of the pack. And the cover shown here is totally forgettable IMO.
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His LSH is definitely not among Grell's best stuff, but he, Cockrum and Sherman are generally considered the best artists of the Superboy/LSH era. I don't count that cover among Legion classics by a mile, but the signature Grell work on Superboy puts it over the top compared to the very forgettable LSH work Staton did.
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re: 225 and the mannequins, for those who haven't read it, they (or actually, the costumes on them- 1 in particular) play a VERY important role in the story. I remember liking this issue a lot and yes iirc it is Levitz' first issue (drawn beautifully by James Sherman).
re: Grell's merits as a LSH artist; I see now how he was really learning on S/LSH, but to my kiddie eyes his art really popped.
re: Judging the book's cover and leaving what's inside OUT of the descision... that's what I am trying to do myself but it is sometimes not 100% possible.
Anyhoo my vote goes to 225.
FIRST TALLY:
225~ 10 votes
248~ 6 votes
This could go either way, and will remain open all day.
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OK, I will confess to this one being difficult for me to judge unemotionally, because IF I remember correctly, this (#225) is the first Legion comic I ever bought for myself with my own money from my paper route in 3rd grade.
That being said, i think the cover for #225 is more dynamic. the second cover seems more staged and therefore the looks on Tinya's face and Cos's disco pose seem artificial.
#225
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248. I at least have the slightest idea what's going on. Mon-El is a favorite character, so that helps, as well.
225 leaves me wondering why there are faceless copies of various Legionnaires in blocks of transparent whatever behind Shadow Lass, and, ultimately, I don't care much.
It is interesting how the artist has to tweak things to make the scene work. On 225, Wildfire's energy blast is curving to hit Superboy's shoulder, due to the angle, and on 248, Cosmic Boy is in this awkward position to make him visible between Mon-El's legs.
Wow, that came out dirtier than I intended...
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What's up with Sun Boy's hair? It looks like a bad toupee about to fly off into space!
Both covers make me roll my eyes a bit-- here we go again... Legionnaires hitting Legionnaires... what's the gimmick *this* time?
I'll give it to #225 for two reasons-- the background and Shadow Lass.
225 has those weird cabinets with the uniforms... 248 has generic computer room/spaceship deck look to it. Both suffer from 'no roof' syndrome, but the cabinets take it.
Flying, active Tasmia beats the heck out of poor, swooning Tas- or even beaten-by-her-boyfriend Tas.
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quote:Originally posted by Officer Taylor: His LSH is definitely not among Grell's best stuff, but he, Cockrum and Sherman are generally considered the best artists of the Superboy/LSH era.
According to whom? Cockrum and Sherman rocked (imho). Grell was a crushing disappointment after Cockrum, and his work only got worse with time (imho).
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From: Champaign, IL | Registered: Jul 2003
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quote:Originally posted by Officer Taylor: His LSH is definitely not among Grell's best stuff, but he, Cockrum and Sherman are generally considered the best artists of the Superboy/LSH era.
According to whom? Cockrum and Sherman rocked (imho). Grell was a crushing disappointment after Cockrum, and his work only got worse with time (imho).
Well, I'd say that's the consensus I've seen here on the boards and in Legion retrospectives here and there.
Am I off-base here, guys?!?!
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#225, one of my favorite stories from that era even though it's one of those stories that throws pre-existing characterization out the window....although, one could say there was not really any pre-existing characterization at that point to be thrown out.
IIRC it actually shows in that fight that Wildfire has some degree of superstrength. Can't remember for certain though.
And yeah, the Grell Legion from that era is always going to have a special place in my heart.
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quote:Originally posted by Officer Taylor: His LSH is definitely not among Grell's best stuff, but he, Cockrum and Sherman are generally considered the best artists of the Superboy/LSH era.
According to whom? Cockrum and Sherman rocked (imho). Grell was a crushing disappointment after Cockrum, and his work only got worse with time (imho).
I always looked at it as Dave Cockrum pretty much made the Legion jump off the covers in the Newsstands visually, but Grell made them sexy and really refined what Dave started.
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I'm not trying to single you out, Officer Taylor, because you're by no means the only one who does this, but I have a pet peeve about people stating their opinion as if it's a fact. So unless one can provide concrete data from an extensive survey of Legion fandom, that quantifiably states "75% of all Legion fans rate Grell in the top 3 artists of such and such an era" IMHO, one should preface such a statement with an "imho".
My personal theory as to why so many Legion fans seem to like Grell is that many of the posters on here first discovered the Legion in their youth, while Grell was at the helm, and what they really feel is a certain nostalgic fondness for that time in their lives and that sense of discovering a whole new fantasy world, rather than an actual appreciation for Grell's artistic ability. Again, imho.
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