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I'm looking forward to it, as well. Giffen should always be welcome at the Legion table, in my opinion. He's contributed so much to the team and its history. I'll always be interested in whatever he has to say, write, and draw about the Legion.
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Never liked his art, but I'd have to say if he was to draw it, I'd be okay with him using his GDS style. I can't stand what he does these days artwise. His writing is fine by me, as long as he stops killing Karate Kid off every few years...
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From: Santa Ana, CA | Registered: Jul 2003
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future king
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quote:Originally posted by future king: P.S. Just look at the variant cover for DC Universe Legacies #6 ... I rest my case.
Er, I honestly think it's a decent cover, personally. I know it hasn't been a consensus favorite, but don't presume everyone agrees with you.
Not presuming anything there CT ... I know better than that. It is my opinion alone. Period. I hate the art, you like the art, that's fine.
No analysis of my intentions is necessary, thank you very much.
From: ontario | Registered: Feb 2007
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I loved the Giffen artwork around Legion Annual 1 and the GDS but it went downhill rapidly after that and by Magic Wars sucked. His artwork on 5YL was IMHO some of the worst art ever to be published in comics.
If Giffen comes back then it should be art consistent with the current Legion ie like he did in the early 80s.
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From: Ancient Kingdom of Northumbria, UK | Registered: Aug 2007
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future king
Excuse me but can you please direct me to the La Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles?
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quote:Originally posted by Silver Age Lad: I loved the Giffen artwork around Legion Annual 1 and the GDS but it went downhill rapidly after that and by Magic Wars sucked. His artwork on 5YL was IMHO some of the worst art ever to be published in comics.
If Giffen comes back then it should be art consistent with the current Legion ie like he did in the early 80s.
I agree with what you said about Giffen's art circa the GDS, it was amazing and so refreshing at the time. But by the time the whole Prophet saga was over I was sick of his new shadowy style already (I seriously remember thinking back then "maybe the guy broke his arm or something???") and by the time 5YL rolled around it was honestly too painful to watch for me.
To be fair though, once he hit his true stride in writing the Legion I learned to enjoy and appreciate his storytelling after that.
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Hmm... while I'm not really a huge fan of Giffen's 5YL art style (it would've been okay for a story or two, but needed more variation), it's pretty far from being worst art in comics, imo. Heck, it's not even close to be being the worst art in the Legion. Some of those guys who were drawing the reboot when it started to go downhill were just terrible.
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quote:Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: Hmm... while I'm not really a huge fan of Giffen's 5YL art style (it would've been okay for a story or two, but needed more variation), it's pretty far from being worst art in comics, imo. Heck, it's not even close to be being the worst art in the Legion. Some of those guys who were drawing the reboot when it started to go downhill were just terrible.
I think there is a misconception of what BAD art means. It's like saying Picasso's art is awful when he clearly dominated so well the technique that he is able to stretch and explore new ways to express art. To say that Ted McKeever or Giffen do bad art is an insult. You may say it's not to your tastes - that's fine. But it is not BAD ART. Bad art is Kevin Sharpe, who is unable to draw a single face expression, who has serious problems with storytelling, who clearly doesn't dominate anatomy. He's that bad. Giffen or McKeever are able to do whatever they want. And both were at the top of the game during those mentioned runs.
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I've seen McKeever at the top of his game... and the last 4 or so issues of DOOM PATROL he completely phoned in and will always have my vote for worst published comicbook art.
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ok i wont talk about the change in style from GDS to OMen and i wont even talk about the Time trapper story art. i'll just leave it as HE LOVES TO KILL KARATE KID, and we could have had KK alive if he wasnt sadistic enough to just kill him again. (by the way he said he would love to kill the new one that was in legion worlds too).
*that's why i dont want him writing for the legion anymore. Not that i didn't love what he contributed to it overal.
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From: nyc | Registered: Jul 2003
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quote:Originally posted by future king: P.S. Just look at the variant cover for DC Universe Legacies #6 ... I rest my case.
Er, I honestly think it's a decent cover, personally. I know it hasn't been a consensus favorite, but don't presume everyone agrees with you.
Not presuming anything there CT ... I know better than that. It is my opinion alone. Period. I hate the art, you like the art, that's fine.
No analysis of my intentions is necessary, thank you very much.
Well, that's cool, but if a lawyer rests his case, he (or she) generally feels that he has presented the best evidence he could to prove his point. So when you said that, it implied (intended or not) that said piece of artwork was all the proof we would need that Giifen's art is "hideous". That's what I took issue with.
I know Giffen, and specifically his artwork, is controversial and devisive, but he nonetheless does have his fans. I personally haven't loved every single permutation of his style but am a big fan particularly of his early work with Levitz and his work on 5YL.
So please, Giffen haters, keep in mind that different fans have different tastes and that if they disagree with you, that doesn't necessarily mean that you are right and they are wrong.
Respect always.
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