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I'm just kinda doing the LASHboot versions... which borrows something from all of them I guess...


EDIT: Now I've read PG's post below, I think my posts aren't quite what you were asking for, I misunderstood.

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Are we doing the current incarnation or should we address all reboots?

There were threads that were dedicated to dissecting characteristics of individual Legionnaires, which might be helpful. I think there were at least three maybe? I don't remember what they were called though... maybe someone else who remembers can dig it up.

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Cham tends to pal around more with whom he considers the fun-loving Legionnaires like Triad, Phantom Girl, Bouncing Boy and Matter-Eater Lad but he can also be frequently found in the company of Brainiac 5 and Invisible Kid, especially if there is a mystery or problem going on.

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Originally posted by Set:
Loving MLLASH's profiles.

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Thank you Set, I'm enjoying reading yours and everyone else's takes too... this may be the most fun thread in a while for me!

Continuing the Shooter/Bierbaums format...


INVISIBLE KID

Lyle Norg, boy genius. As a child, Lyle would often scandalize and worry his parents with his tinkering around with everyday items and the inventions that resulted, such things as antigrav ice cubes and laser kittens. Still, it didn't take a genius to know that Lyle was quite gifted. The Legion's scientist prior to Brainiac 5's arrival, Lyle was actually relieved when Querl joined the team. Because as incredibly smart as Lyle is, he also likes to have fun, and labwork had grown tiresome for him by his preteens. Lyle is extremely humble about his accomplishments but has grown particularly close to Brainiac 5 through a friendly rivalry. Though Lyle is extremely likeable and affable, there are ways to earn his ire, chief among them being looking upon his powers or scientific abilities as "weak". Though close with many of his teammates, once Lyle was brought in to assist on the case of Condo Arlik, he let many friendships slide to devote the bulk of his time to helping Condo.
 

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STAR BOY

Easily dismissable upon first glance as a typical jock, those who know Star Boy better would likely describe him as a "doofus". Very athletic but never brash about it, Star Boy is a good-natured and reliable friend. He's the one who will "have your back". Thom's good nature is what enabled him to forgive his teammates who voted to oust him even after he was cleared of murder by the Science Police. Unfortunately, his laid-back good nature tends to rub some of his more serious-minded teammates the wrong way, and the Legion's unofficial "Good Time Posse" (consisting primarily of Triad, Bouncing Boy and Matter-Eater Lad) wouldn't think someone as 'jocklike' as Thom would hang out with them. These notions tend to limit Thom's relationships with his teammates, so he spends the bulk of his time with his girlfriend.
 

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Posted by Phantom Girl on :
 
Anyone else like to offer their assessment of the personalities of the Legionnaires, or want to lean (AHEM....) heavily on MLLASH for some more awesome reviews)?
 

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Posted by Cobalt Kid on :
 
This thread is great. I'm enjoying reading everyone's thoughts so much that I'm skipping my own for now

Lash--love, love, love your personality bios. Some like Tinya's and Gim's, are so simple yet insightful that I smiling at myself for not thinking of them that way before. All the more reason you should be co-writer of the Legion with EDE.
 

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Posted by Set on :
 
MON-EL
Distant is the word. He has trouble making connections with people, and has yawed between 'trying too hard' and retreating back into the quiet 'observer' mode that he was trapped in for ten centuries. Ten centuries. Forty generations of humans lived and died, and Lar just sat there and watched. He has the unsettling confidence of someone who knows that he's invulnerable, combined with the jaded reactions of someone who has watched a million people live and die, in real time, and has no fear of death whatsoever. He's not in the Zone now, and he *can* stop bad things from happening, and one of the few times he'll show his anger is when someone attempts to hurt someone near him, because, for the first time in a millenium, *he can do something about it.*

Despite being freed from the Zone, he's never felt like he's 'come home' and he will *always* feel disconnected, a 'stranger in a strange land.' His home died a thousand years ago. His home planet has changed in that time, and he feels little connection to it, visiting it rarely. Right now, the Legion is 'home,' and few of his teammates realize exactly how alone he feels, even in the middle of a crowd.

He's the Legion's big gun, and knows it, carrying himself with an almost unconscious air of unshakable confidence. Superboy (or Girl) comes and goes, but Lar is always there. Ultra Boy can mimic some of his power, for brief times, but that barely counts. Wildfire and Star Boy have both had his level of power, but both lost them relatively quickly. Dev-Em once expressed interest in joining the team, and Mon-El flat out lied to him about whether or not he would be welcome, and then misled his teammates about whether or not he was interested!

Mon-El is very comfortable being the Legion's 'big gun,' and, his friendship with Superboy aside, isn't looking for competition... The Legion is his home now, and he's not going to give up his place for anyone.

The only fear he has, the only terror that speaks to him in the night, is returning to the Zone. These are the times when the presence of someone near him, someone he can touch and hold, is the only thing that keeps him sane. Shadow Lass is one of a rare few that he is willing to share these moments of weakness with, and, for all her warrior bluster, she'll never give him reason to regret this trust.

[ August 08, 2008, 10:29 AM: Message edited by: Set ]
 

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Posted by Tamper Lad on :
 
alrighty i have a bit of time today. I'll do five for now.

The legion when they came together is like that first day in the dorm of an elite college that recruits the cream of the class of the high schools all around the country. In this way its different than all other teen superhero teams who are thrown together by virtue of age family relationships or other circumstances. Because of this coming together, they find themselves in roles and situations where they are not the big fish in their little ponds.

- Rokk is what you'd see as the ideal teenage guy in school. Athletic, well-spoken and handsome he is a complete package. His working class origins on Braal make him work hard to meet the standards of the snootier members of the team and the Legion's governmental/financial contacts who he fears think him beneath their social circle.

- Garth is the country boy. He's also emotional, impulsive and a man of action. Gets on well with Cos because his family worked the land. Of the founding three he's probably the least pretentious and most free of guile. Whereas Rokk and Imra know how to lead through stroking of egos and subtle systems of rewards and manipulations, Garth is very straightforward to a fault giving him much trouble when he's in charge.

- Imra is literally the girl that could be anything when she grows up. She's brainy, even better spoken than Rokk and naturally very pretty. She does lack a bit in physical strength but her willpower is unmatched on the team. She is very emotional but her telepathic training has taught her to keep emotional barriers up. This is a reason she's always been paired with Garth. Having very similar ideas she lets him project emotions to others that she feels. Saturn Girl should also have at least a comfortable middle class background in contrast to the other founders.

- Would have been a leader amongst her peers on Carrg which I see as a sleepy planet, a bit behind the times. This is not because she wanted to (because she's naturally unassuming) its simply because she was so talented and likable her teachers and peers thrust responsibility on her. When she comes to the Legion she finally gets what she wants a place with people so talented she gets to blend in a bit without being front and centre on the stage. A very details oriented person, a great manager of plans but not a leader amongst her team-mates.

- Fun loving and adventurous. Naturally popular amongst boys and girls alike. Her early membership and outgoing personality makes her one of the leaders of legions social groups especially amongst the girls. This status makes her a rival of Imra. Imra and Tinya have had contrasting family backgrounds in every version of the pairing, to emphasize their differences in world views. Her outward personality belies the fact that she has to work to overcome what she sees as challenges, such as living in her mother's shadow in the reboot and cartoon. I would say that Tinya is not as naturally pretty as Saturn Girl but her vanity makes her spend much time in the make up, hair and wardrobe whereas Imra doesn't care.

[ August 08, 2008, 10:33 AM: Message edited by: Tamper Lad ]
 

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Posted by Asteroid Al on :
 
I was always a fan of the Introverts Squad -- Ferro Lad, Invisible Kid, Chemical King. They were never part of the inner circle, never the popular person in the room. Their powers were the result of mutations or the self-testing of an experiment, and so didn't especially feel 'heroic'. They might have had friends but the friendships were either the result of amiable competition or due to their being someone others found it was easy to talk with.

That introversion was why each of them felt that they had to go out of the way to prove their worth to the team, and probably contributed to their deaths.
 

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Posted by Set on :
 
PHANTOM GIRL
Some portrayals play up her aristocratic background, whether her mother was a President or a Queen. In the threeboot, on the other hand, her parents are just average schmoes.

Going with the aristocratic background, she seems to be very much the 'preacher's daughter' who hangs out with the bad boys to give her parents agita. Her people, in general, tend to stay in their home dimension, and she's something of a 'free soul' who explores the greater universe, has joined a team of people in another dimension and is dating someone that her mother might charitably describe as a 'no-account hoodlum.'

And yet this isn't just 'teen rebellion,' because Tinya's kept it up consistently across her portrayals. She actually does want to be a part of the greater universe, an explorer, an adventurer, a woman-of-action. Like Mon-El, Tinya hasn't just come from another planet, she's come from another dimension to be a Legionnaire. Also, like Mon-El, she knows that she's pretty much invulnerable here, and her attitude could be interpreted as oblivious to danger and devil-may-care by a detractor or incredibly brave and selfless to someone who she's pulled out of harms way.

She's left behind a cushy life, one that she finds unutterably boring and mundane, to be a superhero. She's risked her life, time and again, not as some jaded thrillseeker or spoiled princess-playing-at-hero, but because she genuinely loves being a hero and doing the right thing as a person of action, and not just a legislator, like her mother.

She's very much the opposite of a jaded thrillseeker, no matter her background, and can be deeply intuitive, when she wishes to be. It's too easy to look at her wide-eyed enthusiasm and her 'nothing can touch me' powerset and think that she's skating through life without a deep thought in her head, but she comes to the Legion with the purest of intentions, and her actions speak louder than her words.
 

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Posted by Quislet, Esq. on :
 
Shadow Lass:

She is the Champion of her home world. This is a hereditary role, but one that she has embraced. IN the Adventure era she was a bit more girly, in that she first tried to latch onto Brainiac 5 as a boyfriend and then when that didn't work, set her sights on Mon-el. However, the relationship did develope into a solid one. She sometimes gets annoyed with Mon-el when he become over protective.

In the reboot, Shadow Lass was portrayed as being somewhat xenophobic. In both the reboot and the threeboot, she is much more of a fighter than in the preboot days.

In all eras, Tasmia is very self-confident about her powers and abilities. She is aware of the limitations of her power, but that does not stop her from being the champion that she is.
 

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My take on Mon-El, my favorite Legionaire:

Mon-El and Superboy are as far apart as omni-powered guys can be. Mon-El is a lot more like Jor-El than he is Superboy, and that similarity to his father is why Superboy instantly looked up to him as an older brother. Mon-El respects Superboy and admires the way he wears the hero mantle so easily, but it is not something Mon-El is seeking for himself.

Mon-El is a scientist and explorer, not a never ending battle type. That is his heroic nature. A thousand years in the Phantom Zone devoid of intimate human contact or any battles to fight would have driven Superman insane. Mon-El OTOH simply waited for the PZ criminals to lose their mind and found it easy to occupy himself. The solitude didn't bother him that much and he liked being able to watch history unfold to an extent, especially since he was watching it unfold in a way few people had ever seen. What really scares Mon-El about the Phatom Zone is not that being in the Zone bothered him, what scares him is that it didn't bother him enough. He could see himself easily getting lost in there forever.

Mon-El is a traditional hero because at his power level, his sense of duty requires him to be one. He is smart enough to do it and he knows he really has to. Just as he knows that at times he has to lead and set an example. But it's not his first love, no matter how well he does it. It's not what he truly wants to do. If Superboy lost his powers, he would truly feel like he has lost a part of himself. If Mon-El lost his, a part of him would feel liberated. The best part about the powers for him is that he can basically go where ever he wants at the drop of a hat.

Mon-El is not envious of Superboy at all. If there's any Legionaires he would like to be more like it would be Bouncing Boy or ME Lad and their way of immediatley connecting with everyone, or Brainiac 5 for his brilliant scientific mind.

The thing he loves about the Legion is that it provides him with the Adventure and journeys into the unknown that he truly loves. You tell Mon the Legion is going to a planet no one has ever been to before and he is genuinely excited, you tell Mon it's time to go round up some criminals around Metropolis, and he is meh.

If there was some dark hole in the ground, no one wantd to go into, Superboy would volunteer first because it's what heroes do. Mon-El would volunteer first because he wants to know what's in there and be the first one go inside.

Mon-El is fiercely in love with Shadowlass as she is the person he has connected with the most in his life and he knows when/if she is gone, he will likely never connect with anyone again. He feels similarly about the Legion, this is really the only family he has ever had and he knows when it's gone it will likely be the last.

Mon-El doesn't struggle with being detatched, he struggles with remaining attatched.

IF someone tried to stick a name like Valor on Mon-El he would immedaitely tell them no thanks, Columbus or Magellan-El, yes, Valor? No. And if he were the seeder of planets, he would do everything in his power to erase his role in doing it. Mon-El doesn't want attention or to be in the spotlight, to him that sort of thing is a chore.

[ August 08, 2008, 03:01 PM: Message edited by: Superboy ]
 

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Posted by He Who Wanders on :
 
Interesting take on Mon-El, Set, but . . .

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. . . Mon-El flat out lied to him about whether or not he would be welcome, and then misled his teammates about whether or not he was interested!
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Interesting take on Mon-El, Set, but . . .

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. . . Mon-El flat out lied to him about whether or not he would be welcome, and then misled his teammates about whether or not he was interested!

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. . . is this from an actual story or is it your interpretation of events? [/QB]

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Interesting take on Mon-El, Set, but . . .

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Same issue where Quislet, Polar Boy, Magnetic Kid and Sensor join the team. He runs into Dev-Em saving a chunk of coastline from sinking and Dev-Em says that if they are looking for new recruits, maybe he should sign up and Mon-El, with a fairly sour expression says, 'Maybe that offer isn't open anymore.' or something. (It sounded like Dev-Em already had an open invitation, and wasn't just any old schmoe.) Back at the headquarters, either Cosmic Boy or Element Lad (I don't recall which) noted that the team had run into Dev-Em, and that they really could use someone with his power. Mon-El's sitting with his arms crossed and pipes up saying that 'He's happy where he is.' and the one who asked him made 'Aw, too bad' type noises and Mon-El conceded that he didn't 'try too hard' to recruit him. (As opposed to what really happened, where he actively discouraged someone who asked about joining...)

I thought it was a neat character moment, because it was too easy to see Mon-El as some monolithic figure that never thinks at all, a clone of Superboy or 'the strong, silent type.' The notion that there was something going on under there intrigued me.[/QB]

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I agree that Dev-Em was a jerk, and yet, it wasn't Mon-El's place to tell him that the offer of Legion membership might no longer be open, nor to tell his teammates that Dev-Em was happy where he was. He made that decision for the entire team, and even if every single teammate might have agreed with his reasons, he didn't bother to take a vote and made the decision for them.

Like pretty much every other Legionnaire, he's got some depth, and a thousand years of watching over mankind from an ethereal state didn't make him an angel. He's one of the select few Legionnaires that Brainiac Five recognized as having the practical streak and willingness to do what had to be done needed to join a mission team that would end in the death of Jaxon Rugarth.
 

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Posted by Tamper Lad on :
 
Dirk is suave and slick and the universally accepted Legion's ladies' man. He is quite knowledgeable and scientifically minded. Though he works hard enough, he comes across as lazy because of his hobbies and his cocky nature that rubs people the wrong way. Unlike good ol Thom who everyone gives a free pass to, Dirk gets called on every short cut he takes or when his work is not up to snuff.

Though he outwardly has lots of friends his relationships are a mile wide and an inch deep. His outward brashness hides a touch of insecurity and lonliness.

The nicest guy on the team. Also the most easy going and overall easiest to get along with. He is no dummy but lacks the curiosity to ferret out facts for himself preferring to let them present themselves usually through the work of others. This is the one thing that irritates others about him, though since Thom never makes any demands of them they let it slide and accept it as the way he is.

Quiet and shy by nature his personality echoes his power. He is a great observer of empirical fact in science like Brainy but unlike Brainy, Lyle is a great observer of human behavior and emotional cues. He is also a great creative mind as well as an efficient organizer like Lu. His multifaceted abilities make him a capable if not always willing (because of his less than outgoing personality) leader.

Brainy is contrary to what we may think is not socially awkward and difficult to get along with. In his youth, he was actually what his culture values as an ideal young man. And on Colu his behavior is par for the course. In every iteration, Brainy's intellectual curiosity and relationships with Legionnnaires leads him to reject aspects of his people's way of life. Given that he is the equivalent Rokk in his own culture, and the general UP culture is quite different than Colu, he has a hard time adjusting to his new team.

He's closest to the thinkers and those who rely on guile as opposed to brute power. In the various boots his emotional growth has always been spurred by a friendships with his teamates, mainly Imra, Lyle, Nura, Ayla. He openly admires Mon-El as a fellow seeker of knowledge. Strangely, he secretly idolizes someone like Dirk because Sun Boy has a good scientific mind but is so natural in social settings (like with the ladies).

Easily the most outwardly emotional of all the Legion Lasses, Ayla finds herself conflicted emotionally by the relationships that are staples of Legions past and present. She is uncomfortable around Saturn Girl because she (wrongly) thinks Imra a cold unemotional witch. She thinks Garth is in over his head with that Shameless Hussy. But in a contradiction she's also drawn into friendship with Brainy because he has control of his emotion in the same way Imra is. Ayla's interactions with him teach him to express emotion while she learns more self control.

Ayla's emotional load comes from being glue that maintained any relationship her two brothers had growing up. Growing up with two brothers she's a guys' girl. Even if not overtly tomboyish she naturally understands and feels comfortable with the way guy's think and act. During times when her emotional stress is out of control, she's been known to try to escape via romantic trysts which ultimately lead to more torment.
 

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So, Mon may have responded as he did because the Legion simply doesn't need an arrogant and insulting SOB, no matter his power level.

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I agree that Dev-Em was a jerk, and yet, it wasn't Mon-El's place to tell him that the offer of Legion membership might no longer be open, nor to tell his teammates that Dev-Em was happy where he was. He made that decision for the entire team, and even if every single teammate might have agreed with his reasons, he didn't bother to take a vote and made the decision for them.

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Good points. I'll agree that Mon spoke out of turn in both cases. I'm not so sure, however, that doing so qualifies as "making a decision" for the team. From the context of the dialogue, it doesn't sound as if Dev really wanted to join the Legion. He was just engaging in a game of oneupmanship: "Hey, if you're desperate, I'll join the Legion and solve all your problems."

Had he really been interested in joining the Legion, he would surely have known (as did the rest of the UP) that the matter would be put to a vote. Mon certainly recognizes this, hence his qualifying words, "might not be open anymore."

The Legion, I will concede, was less likely to pursue the matter once they learned from Mon's mouth that Dev wasn't interested. But, knowing that the other Legionnaires felt about Dev-Em as he did, Mon may have been saving the team valuable time and resources (maybe even an try-out) by not putting it to a vote.

I do agree that Mon is no angel (and neither are any of the Legionnaires). That's why I'm intrigued by your interpretation, even though I find the evidence in these scenes subjective.

As for Brainy selecting Mon to participate in the Legion Conspiracy, again, your point is well taken. But it should not be forgotten that part of Mon's motive was revenge against the Time Trapper, who was responsible for the death of Superboy, Mon's "little brother."
 

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Posted by Jerry on :
 
DAWNSTAR - She takes her responsibilites as a Legionnaire seriously. Dawnstar is sometimes dismayed by the lack of the seriousness of some of the other members. This attitude comes partially from her cultural upbringing but even more from her time at the Legion Acadamy. She worked in an official training institution to earn her place in the Legion. She views the Legion as a serious organization with a serious mission. Earning a place on the team is her proudest accomplishment. She has little patience for those who gained membership by being in the right place at the right time or who view the Legion as some sort of super-hero club.

Dawnstar is drawn to Wildfire because he made her work hard in the acadamy and brought the best out in her. He also supported her when others didn't. She shares his vision on the Legion and respects him.

Dawnstar is proud. She equates performance with personal success. If someone fails on a mission they have failed as a person. She is as hard on herself as she is on others. Personal failure brings great shame to her. It's a manner of honor.

Dawnstar has a softer emotional side. She rarely shows it so many think it doesn't exist. It does, though.

[ September 04, 2008, 07:21 PM: Message edited by: Jerry ]
 

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Posted by MLLASH on :
 
SHRINKING VIOLET

Salu was more commonly known as "Shy Vi" during her early LSH career, but no one could deny there was also a 'tiger' within this lady. While her accomplished fighting skills and wits were key in the defeats of the so-called 'Legion of Super-Rejects' and the kidnapper-extortionists Charma and Grimbor, as well as multiple Espionaige Squad missions, she herself would likely have denied her own skill and importance. The "Shy Vi" moniker fell out of favor upon Salu's recovery from a months-long stay in a sens-tank. She returned as a brash, opinionated force to be reckoned with who was well aware of her own self-worth due to months of physical and mental therapy upon her release from the sens-tank. Violet also emerged from the sens-tank with trust issues and tends to keep to herself, though no one dares now to call her "shy".
 

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Posted by MLLASH on :
 
SUN BOY


Rich, handsome, a little bratty and fun-loving, Dirk is the "go-to" man for a night on the town. While forming a bond with Lightning Lad early in his career, Dirk found that Garth's "family-man" sensibilities were grating to him. Ultra Boy was too much competition, so Dirk ultimately became pals with Colossal Boy. In Gim, Dirk found his perfect wing-man: someone handsome enough to attract the ladies, yet full of self-doubts enough to fade into the background once Dirk turned on his charming personality. Though Dirk might be thought of as vapid by many outsiders, his teammates know him to be completely dedicated. Upon taking on so many missions in a row that he was in danger of a total breakdown both physically and mentally, the LSH instigated limits on the amount of missions a member could take without rest. Sadly, it all comes down to a desperate urge to prove himself, wether it be by the amount of good he can do as a Legionnaire or the amount of metaphorical notches he can place on his bedpost.
 

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BOUNCING BOY


Quick of wit, always in a good mood, Chuck is a favorite among his teammates, especially on long missions. Many consider him less irritating and "cornball" than his good friend Matter-Eater Lad. As a Legionnaire, the very nature of Chuck's power tends to make him look ridiculous.... unti the enemy sees the giant flight-ring powered battering ram that is Bouncing Boy hurtling their way. Also accomplished at building design, Chuck maintains a relationship with Brainiac 5, whose less-successful experiments have often resulted in the need for Chuck's skills in that area. Chuck, along with Triad and Matter-Eater Lad, form the nucleus of the Legion's unofficial "party posse" and are often approached by Legionnaires who want to plan gatherings or celebrations.
 

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Posted by MLLASH on :
 
ULTRA BOY


Jo Nah: Gangbanger thespian. Hailing from a generally roughneck world like Rimbor, Jo learned early on how to fit in and survive, and had both the looks and wits to do so. However, unlike many of his peers, his heart was never as hardened as he would have had one to believe. In his true heart was an actor, someone who liked being somone else. Even if this made him an exceptional con artist on Rimbor (which made him a favorite of his gang), Jo took the first chance he got to better his lot. Upon joining the LSH, he became a quick "UP Idol", as billions of sentients fell in love... with his roughneck swashbuckler appearance, he was the irresitable bad boy that wasn't too dangerous because of his Legionnaire status.
 

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Posted by Sketch Lad on :
 
I'm enjoying this thread, and I'd say that it could be helpful to include notes about the Legionnaire's families and homewrolds.

For example, Nura. Naltor is a matriarchal society, so that would certainly influence Nura's perspective on men. We don't know anything about her father. Also, her mother was the High Seer, so Nura was raised almost like royalty. She felt very protective of her "handicapped" little sister. Later, Nura became an orphan. I think all of those factors would contribute to her ways.
 

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Posted by MLLASH on :
 
Agreed, Sketchy (Hi!!).


MON-EL


Mon-El is the Legion's much-admired older brother. The team as a whole almost has an obsessive need to please him, for reasons ranging from sorrow at his 1000-year confinement in the Phantom Zone to respect for his relationship with Legion-inspiring legend Superman to awe at his incredible Daxamite powers. Mon himself probably stays with the team out of gratitude for his salvation from the Zone, because most Daxamites seem to have a general inbred desire to remain on Daxam (plus that pesky vulnerability to lead). Therefore, Mon-El is rather unique among his people because of his desire to travel the galaxy. Mon also has what could be called a saintlike patience, likely due to his time in the zone and the scoundrels he had to deal with there. Mon also learned how to deal with people of all types after being able to observe them in all kinds of situations from the zone over his inprisonment.
 

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Posted by Quislet, Esq. on :
 
More spot on descriptions from MLLASH.
 

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Posted by Sketch Lad on :
 
I almost want to tag family relations on the end of Lash's posts.

Dirk- mother-less, father was kind of a cad, a business man with enemies. Not the most sensitive way to grow up.

Jo's parents seemed to be quite proud of him, but they also seemed a bit unaware of what he was up to.

Tinya- preboot she was orphaned but had an older brother in the background. Reboot, she has the stong mother issue and the rogue-ish father issue. Threeboot--- I don't think we know her family.
 

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Posted by MLLASH on :
 
Quis...


MATTER-EATER LAD


Comedian and prankster supreme, Tenzil also has an ability to talk you into ANYthing... he has often pulled the likes of Shrinking Violet, Brainiac 5 and Princess Projectra into his pranks when they are needed... no small feat. His ability to come up with absurd solutions to problems have often come in useful, but his teammates tend to deal with him better in smaller doses. Despite having matinee-idol looks, a general perceived "Ewww, gross!" attitude about Bismollians has prevented Tenzil from attaining "Idol" status. That is not the case on Bismoll, however, where Tenzil has turned down repeated holo roles and offers for his own reality vids. An astute observer might see Tenzil's "Good-Time Charlie" ways and repeated attempts to suggest replacements for himself whenever he has to take an extended leave as a mask for his low self-esteem. Tenzil would counter with the idea that Bismollian representation is too important for the LSH to go long without and then probably de-pants the observer.
 

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Posted by Sketch Lad on :
 
Dawnstar's mother used to hire her out for space tracking jobs when she was just a child. Pretty tough on her. Her parents also seemed to want her to follow Starhaven's traditions, yet they knew she was part of a bigger universe. They love her, yet I got the impression that they expected a high level of independence from her, at a very young age. She stepped up to that, but ultimately, it made her come across as arrogant. She did seem to miss out on the joys and freedom of childhood.
 

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Posted by Sketch Lad on :
 
Tenzil doesn't have very good role models for parents. His father has a gambling addiction and a generally negative outlook on life. His mother considers herself too "nervous" to do anything but hang around home. Tenzil doesn't care to be around them too much, but like many comedians, his family is a goldmine for material. Because Tenz doesn't visit the folks much, his little brother Renkil seems to be paying the price for that.
 

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Family would likely have everything to do with making people the way they are, Sketchy... I'm a believer in family ties (and STILL furious about the loss of the Nura/Mysa dynamic). I'd love to read your Legionnaires' families bios!


EDIT: You've already done some! And they rock! More, please!
 

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ELEMENT LAD


This sole survivor of the decimation of Trom can thank his spiritual upbringing for saving him from a case of survivor's guilt that would destroy anyone else. Incredibly sweet by nature, Jan does his best to please his friends and often finds himself voted into leadership or deputy leadership positions because of this. A bond formed with Saturn Girl early on continues today, and Jan frequently shares his innermost thoughts with Imra, as she does with him. His sweetness is sometimes mistakenly perceived as weakness by enemies, a mistake they soon regret. Adept with his tranmutation ability, Element Lad's addition to the LSH elevated them astronomically powers-wise. With age, Jan's spirituality evolved into a general "live and let live" easygoing-ness that tends to make others happy. His "surfer-boy" looks have made him a favorite of teenaged girls and more sensitive sentients UP-wide.
 

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Posted by Sketch Lad on :
 
Thanks Lash! This is great fun.

Preboot and postboot Imra have similar parent dynamics, but in postboot, there's a precocious little sister living in the shadow. It's generally understood that Imra was taken from her loving parents by the Titan Institute (I might have gotten that name wrong) because of her stronger-than-ever recorded abilities. This would have altered her outlook drastically. It's actually very Brainiac-ish.

Threeboot Imra has the powerful mother dynamic going. We're just now getting to know her.
 

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Posted by Sketch Lad on :
 
Jan was very close to his parents and I'm sure it took nearly constant prayer and meditation to get through that grief. They must have taught him that.
 

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ELEMENT LAD


This sole survivor of the decimation of Trom can thank his spiritual upbringing for saving him from a case of survivor's guilt that would destroy anyone else. Incredibly sweet by nature, Jan does his best to please his friends and often finds himself voted into leadership or deputy leadership positions because of this. A bond formed with Saturn Girl early on continues today, and Jan frequently shares his innermost thoughts with Imra, as she does with him. His sweetness is sometimes mistakenly perceived as weakness by enemies, a mistake they soon regret. Adept with his tranmutation ability, Element Lad's addition to the LSH elevated them astronomically powers-wise. With age, Jan's spirituality evolved into a general "live and let live" easygoing-ness that tends to make others happy. His "surfer-boy" looks have made him a favorite of teenaged girls and more sensitive sentients UP-wide.

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Originally posted by Sketch Lad:
I'm enjoying this thread, and I'd say that it could be helpful to include notes about the Legionnaire's families and homewrolds.

For example, Nura. Naltor is a matriarchal society, so that would certainly influence Nura's perspective on men. We don't know anything about her father. Also, her mother was the High Seer, so Nura was raised almost like royalty. She felt very protective of her "handicapped" little sister. Later, Nura became an orphan. I think all of those factors would contribute to her ways.

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I would love to do super-villains as well. I know this is a lot ask but I am "hoping" posters are enjoying the discussion and getting something out of this as well.

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I'm pretty sure that most of us love few things more than a chance to natter on about all things Legion, so I, for one, consider this no hardship at all!

The villains can be tricky, because their characterizations change so much more. The Empress is usually pretty consistent, being all imperious and a bit one-note, but Mekt's personality goes all over the place (as does Mordru's), and other villains, like Mano, barely seem to have a personality at all.
 

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UNIVERSO

Universo wants power and control. His power/method is to use hypnotism to gain control and power over others. He has a minor motivation of revenge in that he wants revenge for being kicked out of the Green Lantern Corp. This revenge would be the side product of achieving his main goal of total control. He has been betrayed by his son, Rond Vidar, several times. However, he does not seem to be bothered by that nor feel any personal animosity towards Rond. Universo feels superior to pretty much everybody. While he may see a few as being his intellectual equal, he would not admit it.
 

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DR. REGULUS

The prime motive of Dr. Zaxton Regulus is revenge. He blamed Dirk Morgna for a ruined experiment and locks him in a radiation chamber. The fact tha Dirk became Sun Boy and joined the Legion is the reason Dr. Regulus has clashed with the Legion. He has fixated on Sun Boy to the point of duplicating his power. However, if it had not been Sun Boy, someone else would have become the "cause" of Dr. Regulus' failures and the focus of his enmity.

Dr. Regulus is very intelligent and tries to project a sense of superiority. But it is easy to see that he has low self-esteem. He believes others are laughing at him and may actually be better than him. He sees only his failures and none of his sucesses.

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Posted by Sketch Lad on :
 
One of my favorite Legion stories was the "Plunder Ploy of the Fatal Five."

Tharok was shown to be creating a new robot half, which had a more human appearance. Obviously, he was emotionally traumatized by half of his body being replaced by pretty ugly robot parts.

This was the story where Validus was shown to be just a big child, not a total monster. Ironically, Lightning Lad was one of the Legionnaires charged with entertaining him.

The Persuader enjoyed sports fishing.

Mano just wanted to be able to go around in an environment like his home, without his bubble helmet on. I'm sure he'd never admit it, but I bet he has remorse for destroying that homeworld.

The Empress comes across as simply decadent. She wants to be waited on and pampered. She likes handsome men, namely Superboy. Later, in the Giffen years, she is shown to be interested in immortality.
 

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Quick notes....

Dirk. He was was shown to have a sculpture collection. Also, he's known as one of the Legion's best spacecraft pilots - that's what lead to his space fatigue. Wasn't he one of the Dungeons & Dragons hologram game players, too?
 

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Dirk. Wasn't he one of the Dungeons & Dragons hologram game players, too?

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Quick notes....

Dirk. He was was shown to have a sculpture collection. Also, he's known as one of the Legion's best spacecraft pilots - that's what lead to his space fatigue. Wasn't he one of the Dungeons & Dragons hologram game players, too?

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UNIVERSO

Universo wants power and control. His power/method is to use hypnotism to gain control and power over others. He has a minor motivation of revenge in that he wants revenge for being kicked out of the Green Lantern Corp. This revenge would be the side product of achieving his main goal of total control. He has been betrayed by his son, Rond Vidar, several times. However, he does not seem to be bothered by that nor feel any personal animosity towards Rond. Universo feels superior to pretty much everybody. While he may see a few as being his intellectual equal, he would not admit it.

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Ferro, in the Reboot, anyway, was also about as bright as a bag of hammers.

Phantom Girl: He was also a pretty decent tailor; he liked designing costumes for the other Legionnaires.

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He did do the tailoring thing.

I think the "not bright" was more about his shyness and lack of self-esteem. Also if I remember correctly, Reboot Ferro had also been kept apart from others for a period of time and so had a little lack of knowing how to socialize. So he would keep his mouth shut when he probably should have spoken up.

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Originally posted by Tromium:
Great conversation, PG. This month's issue of Wizard magazine has personality profiles by Geoff Johns of the main Legionnaires and villains (including Universo) of LO3W. I'll copy them if you think they'd help you, but they're not as true or insightful as what our fellow posters are offering up here.

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PG, Wizard is a monthly magazine about comic book pop culture stuff. I bought the issue only because I knew it had a Legion article in it. I'll try to copy them tonight.

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Thanks, I'll be watching the site. I'm on duty tonight! Sigh! When will the Leadman ever give me a night off!
 

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From "Legion Roll Call" by Kevin Mahadeo in "Wizard" #204 (October 2008), p. 52-55

Overview: "Wizard chatted with Goeff Johns to familiarize ourselves with these key characters we'll be flying with as the six-issue miniseries continues."

Note: I'm ignoring info on Superman, Superboy-Prime, Starman and Green Lanterns and some other stuff because they don't contribute anything new or useful to this discusion, imo, and I don't want to be accused of copyright infringment. I've taken the liberty of adding my own admittedly biased comments after each character profile.

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COSMIC BOY
One of the Legion's founders (along with Lightning Lad and Saturn Girl), Cosmic Boy represents "the American Way" as the de facto leader of the team. Johns explains that Rokk Krinn's magnetic powers reflect his desperate desire to keep the team together and unite the universe against intolerance and hatred.

"He's the cornerstone of the Legion. He strives to fill the role that Superman has whenever Superman isn't there. They all look to Superman for inspiration, and Cosmic Boy struggles with trying to keep that inspiration together."

[Comment: Cos being "de facto leader" underscores the disarray of the Legion organization -- they haven't had an election recently. This is not the first time Comic Boy has been compared to the other black-haired, square-jawed Boy Scout. No word about his relationship with Night Girl.]


LIGHTNING LAD
As wild and uncontrollable as his powers, Garth Ranzz's sense of Justice inspired that aspect of the Man of Steel's mantra. Lightning Lad's quick temper and tendency to become easily agitated cause quite the lightning storm as the rest of the world slowly loses faith in the Legion.

"He reminds me of a Clint Barton-type character or a Hal Jordan. He's got a lot of bravado. He doesn't hold back, he tells people what he thinks. He strikes back hard. But he probably laughs and smiles more than any of the other founders because he does enjoy who he is and what he does."

[Comment: Clint Barton is (or was) the Marvel archer, Hawkeye, a fiery, brash, physical hero type. And in comparing LL to Hal Jordan (the love of GJ's life), the writer betrays he has a little man-crush on Garth, too. Johns' LL actually seems more like 'Toon Garth than original Garth or anyone else. We can take the writer's comparisons and personality-tweaking as tacit confirmation he's ignoring the abhorrent 5YLL Garth/Proty retcon -- not that anyone supposed he'd do otherwise. Johns doesn't say if his twin Ayla is "wild and uncontrollable" too, though the scene where she blasted Brainy's Phantom Zone projector implies she's not all that level-headed, either.]


SATURN GIRL
The final member of the Legion's big three, the telepathic Imra Ardeen provides a counter balance to her lightning quick temper of her husband, Lightning Lad. Her good nature and kind heart keep the Legion's path strong and true.

"She's the soul of the Legion. She believes there's good within people because she's literally seen it within their minds. Superman's right: They have the potential for great good. They just need to be shown the way. And because she can tap into that and see it, everyone believes her. She embodies truth."

[Comment: I pause here to vomit uncontrollably for five minutes. Soldering Cos's and Garth's personalities to their powers is bad enough, but it sounds like John has leeched every last ounce of ambiguity and complexity out of Imra. Her flat oh-so-noble personality matches her boring and sexless appearance -- a fate worse than death for her, imo. Johns confirms that Saturn Girl and Lightning Lad are married in this continuity, but has completely changed the dynamics of their relationship with his personality-jiggering. Hey, maybe he wants Garth for himself. He doesn't say if the couple ever retired to have children.]


BRAINIAC 5
Once deemed the most intelligent being in the universe, Brainiac 5 lost the leadership of his homeworld Colu to Brainiac 6, an act that prompted the Coluans to turn their back on the slightly egomaniacal Legoinnaire. The act fuels Brainiac 5's desire to save the universe and prove his worth not only to his people, but to everyone else in the universe."

"He's the engineer as far as plans go and experiments and also contingency plans. The lightning rod he's been carrying around since [2007's JLA/JSA arc] The Lightning Saga is going to be a focal point in what he does."

[Comment: "Slightly egomanical? Heh. Johns has more to say about the lightning rod in a sidebar: "If you like my Teen Titans and Flash and you like lightning a lot, you need to read Legion of Three Worlds. You will see lightning strike in this book." Johns couldn't telegraph more loudly that Brainy captured Bart Allen in the rod and will release him in LO3W.]


SUN BOY
Essentially, Dirk Morgna's flame has been extinguished since the recent Action Comics arc. "Superman and the Legion of Super-Heroes", leading him to quit the team he once loved.

"He's burned out. His powes are burned out. His passion for the Legion is burned out. His hope for tomorrow is burned out. He's just fried. Over the last three years, he's seen the downside of [being a Legionnaire]. He's become a little jaded. He lost the reason why he became a Legionnaire in the first place. Was there anything else there beyond the women and the fame? Why did he join the Legion of Super-Heroes?"

[Comment: Yeah, I get the "burned" puns. Enough already. Johns effectively replaces the original, pre-Crisis Dirk Morgna with the post-Crisis/5YL Dirk persona, though his death in the 5YLL is obviously not part of this continuity. GJ implies it's been only "three years" since his Legion last saw Superman at the end of the first Crisis. So why do some of them look so geriatric?]


POLAR BOY
This one-time Legion of Substitute Heroes leader longed for years to be a part of the A-team, and now that he's entrenched, it'll be a cold day in hell before he splits.

"Polar Boy is like that kid who finally got on the team and he never thought he'd be part of. So, every day he wakes up and looks at that ring and goes 'I'm still a Legionnaire!' Every time he puts that ring on, it feels like the first time again. I never gets old. He's always been know as the over-eager Legionnaire. He's always in awe about everything. 'What's this room in the headquarters? Oh, it's the gym. It's amazing!' He feels very honored to be there, so it hurts him a lot when people don't understand the value of it."

[Comment: Johnsboot PB's personality is similar the over-eager post-Crisis Brek written by Levitz in the late 80s, but Johns doesn't mention he was ever elected leader or screwed up the job. So I guess that part is out, too.]


WILDFIRE AND DAWNSTAR
This pair of star-crossed lovers could never make their romance work, mostly because she's a human with navigation powers, and he's a bag of anti-energy housed in a containment suit.

"Dawnstar's a pathfinder. If she needs to get somewhere, she knows exactly what path to go down, whereas Wildfire lost his humanity. He became a being of pure energy, so he holds onto everything that reminds him of what being human is -- and that includes the people he cares about. He's struggling with that right now because Dawnstar is focusing on everything but the people."

[Comment: I pause here to have a mild stroke. The return of the "star-crossed lovers" shtick is bad enough, but Johns has given freakin' Dawnstar (a tracker) Shikari's pathfinding powers! What an ... (self-censored). ]

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Allowing for a brief period in the recovery room, on to the Villains.

[ September 09, 2008, 10:07 PM: Message edited by: Tromium ]
 

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The Villains of LO3W

"They're all psychotic, says Johns, "They're all revenge-driven and are hateful beings. They're criminals, plain and simple. There are no redeeming qualities among any of them."

[Comment: Ugh. Unambigious bad guys are no better than Saturday morning cartoon villains with greasy moustaches. What a terrible injustice to some of the richest Legion characters ever created.]


LIGHTNING LORD
The older brother to Lightning Lad and Lightning Lass, Mekt Ranzz lived his life as an outcast, which caused him to become as mentally unstable as the powers he wields.

"Lightning Lad and Lightning Lass are twins, and everyone else on their planet is twins. Lightning Lord was born solo. He's always been an outcast of the family and of the planet. He's insanely jealous of his younger brother and sister."

Johns says he especially likes the personal connection of Lord's vendetta against the Legion.

"To see the blackened corpse[s] of his brother and sister would bring him great pleasure -- and that's twisted."

[Comment: I'm weeping uncontrollably at the virtual death of my all-time favorite super-villain. Johns makes a radical change to the Ranzz family dynamics, and in doing so, transforms Mekt into a plastic monster. The Levitz (and reboot) Mekt did not want to see the blackened corpse of his sister. He wanted her to be his twin. He was capable of love -- twisted love -- but love all the same. Slim chance Johnsboot Mekt will ever go into Rehab or have a personality we can empathize with.]


SATURN QUEEN
A telepath like Saturn Girl also hailing from Saturn's moon of Titan, Eve Aries opposes everything her Legionnaire counterpart represents.

"She's the opposite of Saturn Girl in the way she knows the everyone is capable of evil. She can exploit that in people. Everyone's done something that they've regretted, and she can bring that back up to the forefront of their mind."

Johns also admits that the self-proclaimed royal villain's intriguing personality adds much depth to the character and her motivations.

"She just really enjoys the pleasure of looking at a Legionnaire and saying 'You're no better than I am. You just don't give in yet. You will, though.' There's something scary about that."

[Comment: Johns ignores both TMK Eve who married Tenzil Kem and the Adult Legion Eve who was rehabilitated by Superman. I hope Tenzil isn't too lonely these days. ]


COSMIC KING
Despite his name, Cosmic King bears no relation to the magnetic Cosmic Boy, even in powers. Instead, Laavar Bolto wields the ability to transmute any element into another, making him one of the most powerful members of either Legion.

"He's an enigma to a lot of them. We'll be exploring him a lot more than I think he's been explored in the past. He's a sociopath. He took the identity of Cosmic King not because he has any relation to Cosmic Boy, but because he wanted to be in power alongside Saturn Queen and Lightning Lord. He has immense power, and yet he's not satisfied. Power over elements means nothing to him. He wants power over people."

[Comment: Johns doesn't bother mentioning Element Lad, who has the same transmutation powers, and all but reveals the reason E-Lad is M.I.A from LO3W -- because he wants Cosmic King to cut loose without being hampered by any serious competion. Another personal disappointment.]


UNIVERSO
A long-time Legion villain with the potent power of super-hypnosis, this grand schemer started out with a heroic legacy.

"Universo was once a Green Lantern. He's actually a renegade in the same vein as Sinestro. SInce then, his son has taken his ring and become the last active Green Lantern. Like a lot of these guys, he has a power based on control,. He has a mystical jewel he uses for hypnosis that he uses to control e people. He's very militiant. He's very much the inheritor of Sinestro's legacy."

[Comment: His "son" is Rond Vidar, of course. Johnsboot Universo as the 31st century version of Sinestro confirms some people's worst fears that the writer is going to play Connect-the-Dots between the present and future DCUs. In a sidebar, Johns adds the cryptic comment "There's one Green Lantern and one Guardian of the Green Lanterns, and the Guardian is not a Guardian." Yeesh. By now it should be obvious I'm no admirer of Johns' writing.]


THE JUSTICE LEAGUE OF EARTH (portion only)
"[Radiation Roy and Spider-Girl] are back in the Legion of Super-Villains. They've been mainstays as Legion villains for years and years. Again, they're all just as twisted as we saw them in the Superman and Legion of Super-Heroes' story.... Golden Boy got his face melted by Fire Lad. It's still partially melted and he's pissed. Storm Boy also has a [grudge] with those guys."

[Comment: By "those guys" he means The Subs. Johnsboot Spider-Girl never reconsidered her life of crime. He doesn't mention Earth-Man, the Big Bad of the SM/LSH arc, who I asssumed was on Takron-Galtos when Prime freed the other villains. I guess not, because he's served his purpose and isn't needed anymore.]


That's all, folks.

[ September 09, 2008, 09:25 PM: Message edited by: Tromium ]
 

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Posted by Phantom Girl on :
 
WOW!!!!! TOTALLY AWESOME POSTS!!!!!! EXCELLENT TO WORK WITH!!!!!THANK YOU!!!!!
 

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You're welcome, PG. I'm trying to fix all the typos now.
 

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Is anyone else disappointed by Johns' focus on those eight Legionnaires? I know people enjoy Dawnstar and Wildfire, but I always found Dawnstar pretty dull (despite a cool costume and powers) and Wildfire fairly one-dimensional. And we'll continue to see Polar Boy and Sun Boy as counterparts to one another.

I think the most disappointing thing is that for a story that is designed to be six issues bringing in Legionnaires from three different teams (dozens of Legionnaires), it looks like the focus is going to be on 8 of the Action Legionnaires.
 

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I think the most disappointing thing is that for a story that is designed to be six issues bringing in Legionnaires from three different teams (dozens of Legionnaires), it looks like the focus is going to be on 8 of the Action Legionnaires.

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For mass consumption by second graders, we've had the "Toon and Johnnie DC versions, which (imo) contain truer and more deeply layered heroes and villains than Johns' remanufactured, pseudo-original LSH and LSV.

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I've often thought that a person's personality must adapt to their superpower. How could it not?

I suppose over-doing it is the problem ,though.

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I've often thought that a person's personality must adapt to their superpower. How could it not?

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To look at it another way, everyone on Braal has Cosmic Boy's abilities. Does this mean they all have "magnetic" personalities in some way?

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I've often thought that a person's personality must adapt to their superpower. How could it not?

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Why would it have to? Set does an outstanding job of showing how personalities might adapt to powers in different ways, but why would it be necessary or even desirable to assume that everyone who has lightning powers must have an "electric" personality?

To look at it another way, everyone on Braal has Cosmic Boy's abilities. Does this mean they all have "magnetic" personalities in some way?

To extrapolate this further into real life situations, do all Asians, Africans, Americans, or Swedes (for examples) have the same personality traits? There may be common cultural traits and values, but to focus solely on those is to deny each person's individual qualities. It also leads to stereotyping.

Even though Johns is writing about fictional characters from fictional worlds, his approach in describing the characters strikes me as overly simplistic.

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One more post....

It occurred to me that it would be interesting to test the Legionnaires' true characters by switching or removing their powers.

What if Dirk shrank? What if Gim could create shadows? What if Tinya could hurl lightning? How much would they change?

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It occurred to me that it would be interesting to test the Legionnaires' true characters by switching or removing their powers.

What if Dirk shrank? What if Gim could create shadows? What if Tinya could hurl lightning? How much would they change?

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SHADOW LASS


Strong-willed and opinionated, Shadow Lass is rarely found in the company of the Legionnaires with which she apparently shares the most in common with.

An incredible fighter, Shady refused to train with Karate Kid past her initial session for fear he might 'dilute' her Talokian skill with his training (though she respects his skills greatly).

The undisputed champion of Talok VIII, Shady has no interest in discussing planetary politics with Dream Girl or Princess Projectra.

She is generally recognized as the team's most accomplished female fighter, and enjoyed the distinct honor of being sworn-in during a battle with the deadly Fatal 5.

Because of this, she holds great (though usually unspoken) respect for Cosmic Boy, Karate Kid and Brainiac 5.

Some speculate Shadow Lass is driven by a desire to pair up with a fellow "planetary champion" as part of her duties, and romances (or attempts at, anyway) with Brainiac 5 and Mon-El lend some credence to this speculation.

Not even Tasmia's closest friend Phantom Girl knows about her secret training sessions with Substitute Legionnaire Night Girl (which Shady organized at Lydda's request).

Ultimately Shadow Lass is a proud, dependable warrior who keeps her motivations, if not her opinions, secret.

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Thanks Set. I needed this for a story I was doing with her in it. I just hope I got it right. Did I describe Garth okay though?

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Polar Boy: The eternal freshman among seniors,

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that was fun!

Okay, the first recruit...


TRIAD

There was a reason Triad was the first recruit... she is amazingly likeable. A bubbly, infectious personality... and a brash, boisterous, fun-loving personality... and a shyer, quieter reserved personality... something for everyone! Triad is one of the most accomplished Legionnaires at hand to hand combat and was in fact the unarmed combat trainer for recruits before Karatre Kid came along. Amazingly adaptable to dealing with sentients of all types of personalities, Triad is ideal for missions of infiltration and espionaige.

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Pre-Crisis Lu had only one personality. She was sort of a girl-next-door with self-confidence issues, which she tended to hide from her fellow Legionnaires.

The idea of her bodies having different personalities was a 5YL invention, which was carried over into the reboot. Purple Lu was her impulsive/flirtacious side, Neutral Lu was well-adjusted/balanced, and Orange Lu was shy/quiet.

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The relationship between Polar Boy and the Legion is, to me, very much like the relationship between Worf and Klingon society.

He grew up outside, reading the books and codes and 'honor' strictures, and then, when he finally 'got inside,' everything was different. People he had admired from afar broke the rules he'd been told were sacred, and he felt betrayed in spirit. Unlike Worf (whose people are basically backstabbing dicks, who talk big about honor while sharpening their knives for the next honor-less betrayal), it wasn't that the Legion were honor-less, it was that they had years of experience living with the Legion codes, and were all-too-aware that the codes are meant to discourage abuse of power, not tie the hands of a Legionnaire who *has* to break a rule to save lives (or worlds, or the entire universe!).

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Wasn't the personality split a bit different between the SW6 and reboot versions?

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I seem to remember Lu remarking during 5YL that she (Neutral Lu?) wouldn't have survived having one of her bodies (Orange Lu?) destroyed by Computo if not for her other self's (Purple Lu?) tenacity ... does anyone else remember this?

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Kinetix: Quite possibly the only candidate for an Orange Power Ring who'd be good. She's power hungry, but she only wishes to use her powers to help people. But she learned that her powers need limits. The hard way. Starting from when she saved her mom's life. In the early days, in the BFF grouping of Zoe and Vi, Zoe filled the role of the outgoing one while Vi was the shy one. Then after Zoe left, Vi began coming out of her shell, albeit because of her possession by the Emerald Eye. Then after going through one transformation too many, Zoe was rendered nearly catatonic, in a trance like state, before and after her transformation into a Terrorform, while Vi naturally began coming out of her shell, even going on a date with Chuck.

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Thoughts on Mysa.

Despite her quiet demeanor, Mysa is every bit as passionate and strong-willed as her sister, and because of that, her power is not always as controlled as she would like. She has a touch for the dramatic, as she demonstrates in her first modern appearance, teleporting with a flourish into Legion headquarters, and unleashes on a Khund that has felled both Blok and Dawnstar before turning on her. It is only her very deliberate attempts at calming her passions that keeps her from becoming the monologuing dramatist, and she knows quite well that she treads a fine line between being assured and being *too* assured, and has the bad example of Mordru hanging over her to remind her what she could become, if she ever let her passion override her reason and her power go to her head...

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I'm very curious about some of the Legionnaires that happened along in my absence-- either before I was reading or after.

Tyroc, XS, Computo II, both Kids Quantum. Also, nobody's written up Blok or Invisible Kid II yet (unless I missed it). Any takers ?

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Originally posted by Phantom Girl:
Hey, anybody remember this thread? I was reading through to try and find assessments on Invisibile Kid (Lyle) and found he didn't get much love. Anybody care to assess his personality for me as well as Superboy's?

I'm still working on my game and I'm putting characters together...and like always...I want it to be right.

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Originally posted by SharkLad:
I seem to remember Lu remarking during 5YL that she (Neutral Lu?) wouldn't have survived having one of her bodies (Orange Lu?) destroyed by Computo if not for her other self's (Purple Lu?) tenacity ... does anyone else remember this?

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