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Legion/Titans special number one... Spoilers . . . . . . . . . . . Wow! Just finished reading the special. Legion 2.0 is gone. It is going to be very strange to live in a world without Gates, Kid Q, Sneckie, et.all but they are gone..Shikari looks like she is not...anyhoo BRING ON THE NEW ERA!!!!!!!!!!!
Last page of the book shows the new line up..they are Lightning Lad, Saturn girl, Cosmic Boy, Brainy, Shady, Star Boy, Shrinking Violet/Atom Girl, Colossal Boy, Light Lass, Ultra Boy, Karate Kid, Princess Projectra, Invisible Kid, Dream Girl, Sun Boy, Triplicate Girl, Element Lad, Chameleon Boy, and unknown pair of boots.
Rating the roll.. Top of page to bottom
1. Unknown boots - Ferro Lad? Matter Eater Lad? Chemical King? they are Black
2. Ultra Boy - only see boots..brown. But we know his new look from the issue 2 tid bit. Love the retro boots back. Rating - B
3. Star Boy - Love the costume! The return of the Cockrum starfield!!! Love it with the white cape. Love his white no pupil's look. He looks powerful! Don't like the Afro-American race change but I can deal. Rating -A
4. Chameleon Boy - Like the modern, alien look. Miss the antennae. Better look than he has had in the past..Rating - B+
5. Shadow Lass - Umbra be gone! Im a little undecided on the look. I like the sleekness and the lighter color skin. Like the hair. Rating -B-
6. Cosmic Boy - This is the best Rokk has looked since Grell's beefcake outfit. This is clean, modern and awesome. Rating A+
7. Brainiac-5 - Can't really see him but we have seen him on cover of issue one. Love the buzz cut and new costume..looks good Rating B
8. Light Lass - Love her powers returning..so glad we don't have two electrical members. Costume looks dark blue and white. I miss the feather..this is ok. Rating B
9. Lightning Lad - Love it! Another retro take on Dave Cockrum's classic! Looks awesome with the "glow". Garth also has Grell long, wavy hair again..Rating - A
10. Sun Boy - Glad to see Dirk back after so long. Like the sun crest. Clean and plain..he's very waspy looking. Rating C+
11. Triplicate Girl - Lu looks like a merge of all of her looks. I'm not a fan. Rating -D
12. Dream Girl - Can't really make out the lower part of her costume. Still like the Cockrum look but this is ok. Rating C
13. Colossal Boy - Again.. it's like long lost friends returning for this reader of Legion (26 years). I love the new look but you really can't make it out here. Better visual in preview art from issue two Rating -A
14. Princess Projectra - My second favorite legionnaire of all time is back and looks awesome. I really can't believe it! She looks great in royal purple..cant really make out her costume. But Jeckie is back, gets an A+
15. Element Lad - He's back. Love the elemental symbols...not the colors. Wish he was in blue and green again. Don't like the red. Rating -C
16. Saturn Girl - She really needed a new look. Don't like it.. Rating -D
17. Karate Kid - Im not a big fan of Val. This costume is very clean, Japan esq. I still like the Cockrum costume the best but this is ok. C
18. Invisible Kid - Wow...no head band. Not sure if this is his civies. No comment..costume on the way?
19. Phantom Girl - Yes, name back. Love the Cockrum inspired re design. BELL BOTTOMS!!! Modern clean look again - A+
20. SHrinking Violet/Atom Girl - Last, but not least. Salu is back in Cockrum green and black. Not crazy bout the hair. Hard to make out the costume but looks cool..wait and see. Rating B
Overall comments - I am really excited about the reboot. The team really has a futuristic look. Modern and retro at the same time and the best part is ....NO "L" BELTS WITH POCKETS! They look individual again. Something most teens strive for. This whole thing smacks of the Cockrum/Grell era. Sexy, new, modern..... Can't wait till December!
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I...yeah. Waid, in that preview, played the one single card that now has me curious to see what happens next. Drat.
Anyways, on the Lyle question? I think he just ran away from home, and will probably have a costume in issue 1, maybe.
He might be the POV character for at least the beginning. Waid played the one card that is keeping me there...
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Star Boy - Extraordinary. The best design of the lot. Not the same Thom I knew and loved, but he's beautful nonetheless. Rating: A+
Chameleon Boy - He looks like a mentally challenged elf. The "shapes" on his uniform are just silly. Rating: D-
Shadow Lass - Let's call her Pale Shadow Lass instead.. The costume would look okay on anyone else, but the Lightle design was far superior. Rating: C+
Cosmic Boy - Yawn. Not bad but nothing special. I miss the cool metallic discs. Rating: B-
Brainiac-5 - What on Colu is going on with Brainy? He looks like a damn cyborg. Rating: Gaaah!!
Light Lass - Ayla's sassy costume bears no resemblence to Garth's, which is fine with me. I just wish they'd done something more interesting with her hair. Rating B+
Lightning Lad - Not sure about the neon glitz, but *he* looks amazing. He shouldn't have any problem finding a nicer girlfriend now. Rating: A
Sun Boy - Looks like he's wearing funny pajamas. The hair looked a lot better on the cover of LSH #1. Rating C
Triplicate Girl - B-o-r-i-n-g, except for the organge cape. The costume Coipel designed by light years was better. No effort to improve the hair style either. Rating:: D
Dream Girl - Not as attractive as her all-white bodysuit but I kind of like the "bad girl" look of it. How could she resist the new Star Boy? Rating: B
Colossal Boy - Better than any of his previous costumes, but that's not saying much. Rating: B
Princess Projectra - The cape is great; but the color is garish. I prefer her in red or the original blue & pink. Rating: B-
Element Lad - Don't like the colors at all, but the cape is pretty cool if a little too wizardy for my taste. I'll need time to adjust. Rating: C+
Saturn Girl - What a wasted opportunity. Is that a ponytail? Rating: D-
Karate Kid - B-o-r-i-n-g. Val drawn looked pretty cool before. Now he doesn't. Rating: C
Invisible Kid - No costume yet, so no comment yet except to say I'm very relieved to see Lyle. Did they make him so young to avoid the "gay" question?
Phantom Girl - Get rid of the "P", but otherwise adorable. Rating: A
Shrinking Violet/Atom Girl - I like Salu in short hair. I can't see enough of the uniform to rate it, but I wish it had been pale green.
Summary:
The best: Star Boy, Lightning Lad, Phantom Girl, Light Lass The worst: Brainy, Saturn Girl, Chameleon Boy, Triplicate Girl
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Star Boy - Historically, Thom has always had some of the most dynamic costumes. This one's no exception. Can't wait to see the whole thing, cape and all. 10/10
Chameleon Boy - Historically, Cham has always had the most boring costumes. I dunno. It looks like a little Seseme Street muppet designed to teach about shapes. 5/10
Shadow Lass - A little too goth-looking for my tastes. And the stitching on the front of her pants looks close to being obscene! Before everyone gets upset about teh skin color, are we sure this is Tasmia? 6/10
Cosmic Boy - One of the best looks I've seen on Cosmic Boy. Definite improvement. 8/10
Brainiac-5 - Can't tell what's going on there. Inconclusive
Light Lass - I think Ayla looks pretty nice here. It's ditinct enough to allow here to stand out from her brother. 8/10
Lightning Lad - LOVE the new look. The glow looks awesome on him. 10/10
Sun Boy - Ugh! The only one on here that I truly do not like at all. I wouldn't have minded if Kitson had stolen the design from Superboy's Legion. 2/10
Triplicate Girl - Eh. Nothing really special. The orange cape looks tacked on now that there's no orange in her outfit. 6/10
Dream Girl - Dreamy rearely gets much decoration in her outfits so I'm glad to see a little extra detail. Still kind of hard to see what's going on with her pants, though. Inconcclusive
Colossal Boy - Looks too much like Dev-Em's outfit from the Dark Circle story. I consider this one of the few let downs. 5/10
Princess Projectra - The color's great! The design is great! She's not a snake! This is by far my favorite of the new outfits!!! 10/10
Element Lad - Jan's costume changes have always been drastic in the past, so there's no reason for this to be any different. It's very bold and unlike anything seen on a Legionnaire before. The little symbols on the groin seem like clutter, though. 9.5/10
Saturn Girl - This just doesn't seem right to me. Given time, though it might work. 7/10
Karate Kid - Nice jammies. hard to see the whole thing, but so far it's kinda neat looking. 8/10
Phantom Girl - I really mis the cape on her. I always thought the cape made for a nice visual with her powers. It took poor Tinya years to get rid of those bell bottoms. Now it looks as though she is doomed to wear them again. I am not happy. 5/10
Shrinking Violet/Atom Girl - Didn't she wear this exact same outfit back in the 70's? I swear it looks really familiar. The short hair reminds me of butch Vi in the V.3 days and that isn't a good thing. Still, a simple and classy look. 8/10
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Star Boy - Great new look - my favorite of the bunch. I think it's possible from the pic that this is James Cullen, not Thom.
Chameleon Boy - Is that what bald durlans look like? Is that supposed to be some kind of connect to Kojak and bald/balding detectives? and the basic geometry shapes indicate...? don't get it
Shadow Lass - I like the outfit quite a bit, but her pallor is a little disconcerting. Her shadows are part of her pigmentation and thus changes her shading when she's using them? 'Shading' being used as a verb to indicate coloring and also as a verb to indicate shadow casting?
Cosmic Boy - it's alright; doesn't draw me to him like that peekaboo little tight number he used to wear, but it's not the awful pale scarlet/pink bit with the removable sex toys (i mean metal discs)
Brainiac-5 - eh, he looks more interesting than he ever has ... he's always such a central character, but his costumes always are so bland ... this has something to it
Light Lass - cool gravity powers make a return in an age and under a creative team who can use them well -- costume is cute, but a little bland, especially when seen against her brother's
Lightning Lad - PHENOMENAL! this is what made Lightning Lad so popular in earlier legions
Sun Boy - it's fine -- didn't think i'd say it (as i never think the Legion needs all the frat boys originally created): but it was good to see him
Triplicate Girl - "Star Wars" meets "Lord of the Rings" and forgets to explain why... WHY?
Dream Girl - She looks great. Sexy, tech-savvy, and - gasp - not automatically useless! She's not sporting a swimsuit to fight the Fatal 5!
Colossal Boy - ugly times two, IMO ... looks like he's from a planet of neanderthals that despise being attractive
Princess Projectra - nice, nice, nice -- jeckie in purple seems so natural, and much more regal than pink
Element Lad - see Triplicate Girl above
Saturn Girl - um, i guess this is Imra's "I stand alone" outfit... maybe it makes her feel better believing people dislike her for her fashion, rather than her attitude or morally questionable use of powers? maybe titanians all dress apart from others based on their own sense of place?
Karate Kid - a return to the karate in Karate Kid, but this time it's cute ... i like him swarthier
Invisible Kid - looks more explorer-adventurer than superhero, which is Lyle when i think about it
Phantom Girl - BEAUTIFUL... she looks great
Shrinking Violet/Atom Girl - I like it, but I'm not sure I'll see her again for a long time, since she's a subatomic agent.
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Star Boy - One of the best of the bunch. I like it ALOT!
Chameleon Boy - Yeah don't care for the new head or costume. One of my faves though so I am hoping him being a shapeshifter means a new look quick!
Shadow Lass - I like her new look!
Cosmic Boy - Not bad. Has a certain 80s tron feel...hi-techy circuit vibe?! Not bad.
Brainiac-5 - Not bad. Not my fave costume but i can dig it...much like Rokk.
Light Lass - freaking awesome!
Lightning Lad - Same as above1 Awesome!
Sun Boy - hate the hair and costume really. BUT love the sun actually glowing!
Triplicate Girl - worst of the bunch by far! ugh!
Dream Girl - Not sure have to see more.
Colossal Boy - I really like it. And I like the muscular look as well. For some reason it reminds me of a Cockrum Imperial Guard and that is a good thing. Wouldnt mind his old school headpience with hair and face showing though.
Princess Projectra - Aye royal purple princess. like it.
Element Lad - Interesting. Don't like the red costume. Maybe a more muted color...a bluish/gray?
Saturn Girl - Reminds me of her Magic Wars look a bit. I don't care for the cape much...or at all.
Karate Kid - the postboot costume was much cooler.
Invisible Kid - have to agree with Andy about the scientific adventurer thing. I like that spin on Lyle! I like the look thus far.
Phantom Girl - I like the design alot! Don't like the chest symbol insignia thing. Rather have cleavage.
Violet - I like it! Black and green! So her hair isn't short...i will survive.
Jorge
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Speaking of the glowing energy parts on certain characters...seems to be popular thus far.
Infact it's so darn cool it can become a trademark! If each Legionnaire has an insignia that glows like this...some more than others...it would really rock.
Each member having their own sign fits that old school adventure silliness so many like...but having it glow and be a visual effect is very modern.
I may have to do this on my micros to see how it looks.
Jorge
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i thought the glowing might be the result of their unique ability 'powering up' the clothes
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Chameleon Boy - Don't care for the symbols but otherwise an improvement. 3 stars.
Shadow Lass - She always looks good. 4 1/2 stars.
Cosmic Boy - Good! 4 1/2 stars.
Brainiac-5 - Bleh - 2 stars.
Light Lass - Fantastic - 5 stars.
Lightning Lad - 5 stars!
Sun Boy - WHO LET THE LITTLE MOROSE BOY OUT IN HIS PAJAMAS? 0 stars!
Triplicate Girl - No No No. 1 star.
Dream Girl - Looks good. 4 stars.
Colossal Boy - Not as bad as some. 4 stars.
Princess Projectra - No snakeskin earns this ensemble 4 1/2 stars.
Element Lad - Again, those darn symbols - he looks like he's been drawing on himself - 1 star.
Saturn Girl - Need to see more, but points for going from pink back to red. 4 stars.
Karate Kid - Can't tell. 3 stars until further notice.
Invisible Kid - May not be his costume but I like the look - 4 stars.
Phantom Girl - Close to great but not there yet - 4 stars.
Violet - Who can tell? 3 stars.
On the whole I'm really delighted. Although very popular Barry is not one of my favorites, but I like what I've seen here, and the costumes are better than I expected.
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quote:Originally posted by joe mondo: Princess Projectra - No snakeskin earns this ensemble 4 1/2 stars.
Actually that would have been hilarious if she had been wearing some snakeskin somewhere in her outfit! At least we'd know what happened to Sneckie after the fade-out... well parts of her anyway!
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quote:Originally posted by imskian78: 1. Unknown boots - Ferro Lad? Matter Eater Lad? Chemical King? they are Black
By my count, all Adventure era characters are accounted for except for Mon-El, Matter-Eater Lad, Timeber Wolf, and Chemical King. Waid has confirmed Mon is coming later, and intimated that Brin & Condo won't be around for awhile.
So, unless this is a new character, I'm leaning towards Tenzil.
Edited to add: Bouncing Boy is unaccounted for as well, but I'm betting that's him in the DNAddiction ad outside Lyle's bedroom window.
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Cosmic Boy-not crazy about it, I do like to see a colour other than pink/black/purple being used though. I always like it when an artist boldly uses a colour that a character hasn't been associated with before. I do think it's a bit blah and nothing special though.
Sun Boy-ugh! Give that boy some boots and pants stat! The sun logo should be the silver age one. This one is just ugly.
Dream Girl-I like it! I like the swirly blue on the pants. Nice to finally have a look for Nura that gets away from the chrome swimming costume look (although that is fantastic and timelessly classic, it's time for something new)
Violet-disappointed to see her back in green. I always thought it made no sense that a character called Violet was wearing green not er..violet. Colour it violet and wer'e in business.
Brainac 5- don't like it. Hate the hair. I want Brainy as his sweet awkward old self not as a ruthless manipulative Vril Dox clone and that's what this design screams. Should have more purple in it.
Colossal Boy-hate it. Nothing special
Chameleon Boy-Don't like it. He had better shift back to his classic look soon! 'If it ain't broke don't fix it'.
Saturn Girl-like it. (I think I'm the only one who does so far) The cape is probably a bad idea. Imra has never had a cape except for that Giffen Magic Wars costume that had had a small one, but hardly anyone remembers that as she only wore it for about five minutes! The Saturn symbol should be yellow, not red.
Triplicate Girl-like it. Again I think I'm the first one who does! As with Imra's, this costume most resembles the postboot one and I liked that, so I like this, not sure a cape goes with it though. Glad to finally see the back of orange and purple. Orange and purple on Luornu was great, but it's been done to death. Yes! Other colours on her already!
Lightning Lad-don't like it. I think those glowing lightning bolts are ugly. Sorry. Much prefer the postboot costume. It's too 70s.
Phantom Girl-Like it except for the flares and the 'p'. Okay I'm a child of the white hot heat of the Punk Rock Wars, Flares=Evil as far as I am concerned. I waited for year upon year for Tinya to finally lose those fugly, fugly, fugly Foul EVIL flares and hallejulah she finally did! Now they are back. Noooooo!
I loathe flares. Despise them with the heat of a thousand suns. Not happy the flares are back. The 'p' is fugly as well. Would be much better with just a black oval. The rest of the costume I like though, the belt is cool. And I think the short black gloves really go well with the design. Like the gold earrings (or are they barrettes?) as well. I just wish it wasn't flares...ugh. Also miss the cape. I think Tinya is a 'cape person' in the same way that Imra isn't..
Light Lass-Would prefer the feather instead of the arrow, would lose the bare midriff (that is going to be so dated in a few years time, other than that it's good. I like the design of the boots and the stripes going up the sides of the legs, don't like that they end in arrows though. Just don't like pointing up arrows for some reason. Overall it's nice. I think it needs a belt to finish it off though.
Shady-It's okay, pretty much you can't go wrong with Tasmia as long as its black/dark blue and has a cape. She's really the easiest Legionnaire to design for. (take it from an amateur artist who's designed loads and loads of alternative Legion costumes ) Again, would lose the bare midriff, I frankly think bare midriffs are a bit trashy looking, just imho. And let's have the blue skin back pronto!
Jeckie- I like it, although again, the bare midriff is a minus. I think it's excellent that she's in purple. The colour most symbolic of royalty and no one has thought to use it before! (including me I have to say) doh! I don't know what that weird apparatus on the back of the cape is, (you can see it more plainly on the cover for the first issue) looks like a hood fashioned from a toilet seat. Don't like that but I haven't seen it closely enough yet, I may change my mind.
But frankly I don't care what she looks like as long as she's human!
Element Lad- I like it. Again use of colours not associated with this character before earns high grades from me! Jan seems to be the legionnaire with the most diverse range of colours, from pink to blue and green to pink and black to black and white, now yellow and blue. He is now 'Swedish Flag Lad'. Hurrah!
Star Boy-like it. That very astronomical photo like starfield is going to be very hard to draw though. (better to stick to the stylized old starfield) Yeah, I'm looking at it from an 'omg how am I going to draw that??? perspective.' From a purely eyecandy perspective, have at it and fill your boots! it's cool.
Karate Kid- Would have preferred orange and black as of old. Seems a bit plain.
Some of my judgements may seem a bit harsh but it's a purely subjective thing, aesthetic taste. No one is wrong or right! It's all down to personal preference! (it's nothing personal!)
ummmm...have I mentioned how much I hate flares?
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quote:Originally posted by Super Lad Kid: Chameleon Boy - Historically, Cham has always had the most boring costumes. I dunno. It looks like a little Seseme Street muppet designed to teach about shapes. 5/10
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