Can we get some sort of list of these here (for better or worse - comments welcome). And *any* prominent characters, not just Legionnaires.
Posted by Kent Shakespeare on :
1st thought: not a huge change, but...
Shvaugn although still acop 1st and foremost, she's older than the legion this time 'round, and didn't start out as an enamoured groupie who seduced Jan and later turned out to be a guy.
Posted by Bicycle Repair Man on :
Well, let's see ...
NEW Legionnaires:
XS Kinetix (unless you consider her the reboot version of Quislet ) Gates Magno Monstress Kid Quantum II Thunder Shikari (unless you consider her the reboot version of Dawnstar, which DnA have stated was not their intention) Gear. That's nine so far.
ALTERED Legionnaires:
Projectra to Sensor was the biggest change. Wildfire is now a fusion of two people (Radion and Blast-Off, both of whom were new characters). Violet has both shrinking and growing powers. Ferro was born in the 20th century. Kid Quantum I was human, not Protean/Antarean. Apparition is now half-Carggite. Mysa is the daughter of Mordru, and has not joined the Legion. Polar Boy is currently a Legion Cadet, so apparently he gave up on the idea of a "Legion of Substitute Heroes" before he, Night Girl, and their unseen recruits got past the training stage. We haven't learned Timber Wolf's postboot origin yet (we first saw him on Rimbor, but IIRC we don't know if he was born there). Dirk Morgna, Tenzil Kem, and Jacques Foccart have not joined the Legion, and Chuck Taine has never had meta-powers (as far as we know ...). Also, as of this writing, Live Wire has a crystalline body and the power of transmutation, and Element Lad and Leviathan are dead.
[ May 25, 2004, 07:42 PM: Message edited by: Bicycle Repair Man ]
Posted by Kent Shakespeare on :
Thom
less laid back game-playing jock, more about proving himself as a hero over-and-over
Posted by Kent Shakespeare on :
good list, BRM
I guess my mind read into a more personality-difference level. duh! I missed the more obvious changes.
Posted by Bicycle Repair Man on :
Other NEW Characters:
President Chu the Athramites Aven of Titan Inferno Lori Morning Brainiac 4 Winema Wazzo might qualify; I don't remember the name of Tinya's mother preboot. There were others, of course: members of the Workforce and the Uncanny Amazers of Xanthu (such as Particon, Atom'x, and the ever-popular Konk), Amalia Crugg, Jancel Ardeen, Tinya's father, Tangleweb, Ze Tongue, Cos's former magnoball coach ...
Other ALTERED Characters:
Roxxas was a Daxamite. the Empress was pretty different from the preboot Emerald Empress. the Emerald Eye never used to talk. Universo is Titanian, with full telepathic abilities. Leland McCauley is dead (which I regard as a poorly-considered move on DnA's part; as a catalyst for problems for the Legion to solve, McCauley was a useful character. Ra's could have impersonated someone else to become UP president). Insect Queen is, as far as we know, a native of 30th century Xanthu. Mordru has fought the JSA on modern-day Earth, and will apparently someday establish an interstellar empire (which will not include Earth) which will fall sometime before the founding of the UP.
Posted by numberonelegionfan on :
Dreamer...first started off as a ditzy narcoleptic...now has no need for sleep due to intense Khundian training...her pre-boot self was continually obsessed with her looks and took a hissy fit every time she broke a nail...Monstress sort of adapted that persona post-boot...she is now very accurate in her dreams.
How about R.J. Brande himself? He's still THE richest being in the United Planets but he's not a Durlan and he's not Chameleon's father this time around. He had a run as President of the United Planets and financed the building of the current Legion HQ, Legion World.
Chameleon...when he first joined he only spoke broken English...it was later revealed to be a ruse IIRC (I could be wrong). He developed a strong friendship with Invisible Kid, Sensor, and has/had a crush on Spark.
...more later
Posted by DrakeB3003 on :
The Time Trapper has changed, but to what (and from what, I couldn't keep track), who knows?
Posted by Sanity or Madness? on :
quote:Originally posted by Kent Shakespeare: good list, BRM
I guess my mind read into a more personality-difference level. duh! I missed the more obvious changes.
Oh, I'm at least as interested, if not moreso, in personality differences
quote:Originally posted by numberonelegionfan: How about R.J. Brande himself? He's still THE richest being in the United Planets but he's not a Durlan and he's not Chameleon's father this time around. He had a run as President of the United Planets and financed the building of the current Legion HQ, Legion World.
Actually, he's third according to the Beginning of Tommorrow TPB intro [McCauley WAS fourth]. The top earner was "sealed," and the second also wasn't mention.
Posted by numberonelegionfan on :
Additional...
R.J. Brande also demonstrated some sort of mental powers when Shrinking Violet was in a coma. He went inside her mind and persuaded her that she was not to blame for Leviathan's death.
Legionnaires alive that were killed pre-boot: Invisible Kid (Lyle), Ferro, Karate Kid, Triad (nearly lost a body when she was attacked by the White Triangle, then in the 20th Century when she was possessed by C.O.M.P.U.T.O.)
Invisible Kid developed the Legion Flight Ring
Legionnaire couples that were pre-boot but not post-boot:Karate Kid & Sensor/Projectra, Cosmic Boy & Night Girl, Shrinking Violet & Spark/ Lightning Lass, Element Lad & Shvaughn/Sean, Timber Wolf & Spark/Lightning Lass, Triad /Triplicate Girl/Duo Damsel & Chuck Taine /Bouncing Boy, Mon-El/M'onel & Shadow Lass/Umbra
Legionnaire couples: Cosmic Boy & Kid Quantum II, Chameleon & Spark (status of relationship in limbo), Chameleon & Sensor (status of relationship in limbo), Ferro & Shrinking Violet (status of relationship in limbo), Brainiac 5 & Andromeda (status of relationship doubtful), Brainiac 5 & Invisible Kid (status of relationship non-existent--They are just colleagues!), Wildfire & Shikari (status of relationship growing), Ultra Boy & Apparition (married with son Cub--& "Uncle T. Wolf"), Live Wire & Saturn Girl (status of relationship uneasy because Garth claims to be back in Jan's body and no one knows what to make of it especially Imra)
No Legionnaire status/appearance/reboot for: Catspaw:has not appeared, Dragonmage:arrested for accidentally releasing the Elements of Disaster, Blok:has not appeared, Sun Boy:gained solar powers but lost them and didn't join the Legion, Tyroc:has not appeared, Chemical King:is a reporter and "so-called" mystery lover of Invisible Kid, Magnetic Kid:not a Legionnaire--still on Braal as a Magno-Ball champion, Computo (Danielle Foccart):has not appeared, Matter Eater Lad:not a Legionnaire but worked as Legion's chef--whereabout unknown, Bouncing Boy:not a Legionnaire but serves as the architect and builder of Legion World and the Bouncing Boy and is also the maintainence man for Legion World, Polar Boy:had a try-out a few years back, was rejected, now a Legion Cadet.
Legionnaires killed in reboot: Kid Quantum I, Leviathan, Monstress
still more to come...(trust me :-D)
Posted by numberonelegionfan on :
White Witch:goes by her name Mysa, is not the sister of Dream Girl, in the reboot she is the daughter of Mordru
Posted by numberonelegionfan on :
Quislet:has not appeared; Tellus:has not appeared himself but members of his race have at intervals in crowd shots; Kent Shakespeare:has not appeared but someone who resembles him (armless glasses and slicked back hair) has apparently joined the Cadets; Celeste Rockfish:has not appeared; Stone Boy:has not appeared; Color Kid:a very young female version of Color Kid appeared in the Legends of the Legion mini-series; Infectious Lass:a very young version of Infectious Lass appeared in the Legends of the Legion mini-series; no Duplicate Boy, Life Lass, Gas Girl, Beast Boy...only Evolvo with the Workforce
Posted by Nightcrawler on :
quote:Originally posted by Bicycle Repair Man: Wildfire is now a fusion of two people (Radion and Blast-Off, both of whom were new characters).
Actually, it was Atom'X not Radion.
quote:Originally posted by Bicycle Repair Man: There were others, of course: members of the Workforce and the Uncanny Amazers of Xanthu (such as Particon, Atom'x, and the ever-popular Konk), Amalia Crugg, Jancel Ardeen, Tinya's father, Tangleweb, Ze Tongue, Cos's former magnoball coach ...
Particon wasn't from Xanthu, but was a member of the Workforce.
[ May 26, 2004, 01:35 AM: Message edited by: Nightcrawler ]
Posted by deanlegion on :
Tinya had a counsellor who was from Gym'll's world. I'd have to check the back issue to get her name.
McCauley had a feline woman receptionist.
(Hmmm...these are not very clear, obscure references. I'd better do some more research before I continue this....)
Posted by deanlegion on :
Maybe someone could compile a list of the differences between preboot Legion family members and postboot Legion family members? There is quite a bit of variance...
Posted by Nightcrawler on :
quote:Originally posted by deanlegion: Tinya had a counsellor who was from Gym'll's world. I'd have to check the back issue to get her name.
McCauley had a feline woman receptionist.
Dr. Ryk'rr, she started as Ferro's psychologist.
And, Weeden worked for President Brande, not McCauley.
Posted by deanlegion on :
Thanks, Nightcrawler!
Posted by Valor the M'Onel on :
Sorry if no-one agrees with my opinon but here's what I think: Magno:is a slight post-boot Magnetic Kid Shikari:I think is kinda a post-boot Dawnstar Inferno:Is a post-boot Sun Boy
Posted by Greybird on :
And some suggest continuity obsessions among fanboyish types are on their way out! {wicked grin}
I'll belie that myself by posting again, in passing, why Shikari is NOT Dawnstar: Differences in planets, wings, attitudes, reasoning abilities, learning abilities, vocabulary range, libido, origins, societal dynamics, scope of invulnerability, hyperspace use, and essential Legion-use powers. That's just the SHORT list.
(Heroism and fortitude are not among their differences. And I'll be the first one disappointed if Shikari is retconned / rebooted / re-launched out of the picture.)
We all make exceptions ... Dawny's my sister, after all.
Posted by Valor the M'Onel on :
I'm not even gonna argue.
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
Sparkonly had the Light Lass abilities for a few issues and now her lightning power is stronger than Garth's.
Brainiac 5's forcefield is an internal power now.
Umbra is edgier than Shadow Lass ever was, and I don't remember preboot Tasmia ever fighting like Umbra has! Add her amped up darkfield to the list too.
M'Onel's lead serum doesn't counteract the effect of red sunlight, unlike in the Adventure run.
Dirk Morgna, as far as I know, has never exhibited womanizing tendencies.
The Legion Academy was closed down after only a short period of time, although there are Legion cadets now on Legion World. Also, this Legion never used flight belts. Both the stargate and the [/b]threshold[/b] are also new inventions. And time travel was never outlawed in the preboot, was it?
Andromeda wasn't a xenophobe, and certainly wasn't a nun, preboot.
Rond Vidar doesn't have honorary or reserve Legionnaire status now, and no relationship to Universo has been confirmed.
Doctor Regulus is currently deceased as of now.
Mano is motivated by vengeance now, not greed. At least, he was in the early reboot...
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
Chameleon wasn't from the high priest's bloodline before, and Leviathan is now from Mars and Karate Kid from the "Omega Colony", whereas both were from Earth preboot.
Braal and Titan being at war is exclusively reboot, while the Braal-Imsk war is a preboot thing.
The Dark Circle member planets are different this time around, Sklar was never destroyed preboot and the Brain Globes are now a G'ildishpan/G'ildan subspecies.
Posted by Invisible Brainiac on :
Proty is now Lori Morning's pet, not Cham's.
Evolvo is now in the Workforce, and not with the Heroes of Lallor.
Dreamer is the first precognitive Naltorian in seven generations, according to one of her first reboot appearances, but pretty much all Naltorians had some degree of precognitive ability preboot.
Posted by Sanity or Madness? on :
quote:Originally posted by Invisible Brainiac: Proty is now Lori Morning's pet, not Cham's.
Don't you think the Proties being artificially-created lifeforms, rather than a naturally-occuring species is a bigger change? Posted by kid chaos on :
There was no Jancel Ardeen in the Pre-boot, right?
And it looks like we'll have a THIRD set of new/very different charecters come December. Posted by deanlegion on :
We haven't seen Metal Monsters on Braal, yet.
Posted by Obadiah Oldbuck on :
quote:Originally posted by Bicycle Repair Man: Kinetix (unless you consider her the reboot version of Quislet )
Actually, I believe that she was intended to be the reboot Life Lass. Note that even the few glimpses we have seen postboot of the Lallorian heroes, Life Lass has never been seen.
quote:Originally posted by Bicycle Repair Man: Shikari (unless you consider her the reboot version of Dawnstar, which DnA have stated was not their intention)
They lie. She is the postboot Dawnstar. DnA just said that becasue they knew Grey would hunt them down and kill them
quote:Originally posted by Bicycle Repair Man: [Violet has both shrinking and growing powers.
I'd call that a development, not a reboot change. Vi was initially rebooted esentially the same.
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Posted by Obadiah Oldbuck on :
quote:Originally posted by Valor the M'Onel: Sorry if no-one agrees with my opinon but here's what I think: Magno:is a slight post-boot Magnetic Kid Shikari:I think is kinda a post-boot Dawnstar Inferno:Is a post-boot Sun Boy
I would say Inferno is the reboot Beauty Blaze
Posted by Obadiah Oldbuck on :
quote:Originally posted by Greybird: And some suggest continuity obsessions among fanboyish types are on their way out! {wicked grin}
I'll belie that myself by posting again, in passing, why Shikari is NOT Dawnstar: Differences in planets, wings, attitudes, reasoning abilities, learning abilities, vocabulary range, libido, origins, societal dynamics, scope of invulnerability, hyperspace use, and essential Legion-use powers. That's just the SHORT list.
(Heroism and fortitude are not among their differences. And I'll be the first one disappointed if Shikari is retconned / rebooted / re-launched out of the picture.)
We all make exceptions ... Dawny's my sister, after all.
But they are both fircely independent winged creatures from nomadic cultures that can survive in a vacuum and have tracking powers over intersteller distances.
If Shikari is not the reboot Dawny, I would say that she certainly precludes Dawny ever appearing in this particular reality.
Posted by Greybird on :
I don't kill, but I do dissect {grin}
"fiercely independent": Shikari is tied to those of her species far more than Dawnstar was to others of her (sub)species. That the events of "Lost" and afterwards took her away from her people, until others came to run the transport system, helped drive Shikari's character dynamics -- as much as we saw of them, anyway.
"winged creatures": Yes, they both have wings. The differences in physiology and design are considerable, though. Dawnstar could manipulate air, but didn't rely upon doing so. Shikari couldn't do so at all. Dawnstar couldn't hide her wings, Shikari can.
"from nomadic cultures": Starhaven was not a nomadic culture. Dawny's forebears migrated to a new home, and some had the abilities to make money through interstellar navigation, but that doesn't make them "nomads." (Many American Indian cultures were not nomadic. We don't know which ones produced the Starhavenites, and that was a weakness -- a lack of detail -- that hurt Dawny as a character.)
"that can survive in a vacuum": Shikari needs an exoskeleton-at-will to do this. Dawnstar did not.
"tracking powers": Dawny had tracking powers, finding again what was known about already -- and not pathfinding powers, to find what was as yet not known about. Shikari, the reverse. Subtle but distinct abilities.
"over interstellar distances": True for both, but only Dawnstar could traverse those interstellar distances under her own (hyperspatial warp) abilities. Shikari had to rely on others' creations and help, whether with space vehicles or Threshold gates.
{ If Shikari is not the reboot Dawny, I would say that she certainly precludes Dawny ever appearing in this particular reality. }
From being on the Legion team? Perhaps. (Well, until Waid and Kitson dissolve the "team.") From being in this particular reality? Not at all. Unless every race or subspecies depicted is supposed to be represented in the Legion, and we haven't seen that yet in any storylines.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
quote:Originally posted by Obadiah Oldbuck:
quote:Originally posted by Bicycle Repair Man: Kinetix (unless you consider her the reboot version of Quislet )
Actually, I believe that she was intended to be the reboot Life Lass. Note that even the few glimpses we have seen postboot of the Lallorian heroes, Life Lass has never been seen.
Jeepers! How many times to we have to go through this!
Kinetix was clearly intended as a postboot Cera Kesh! Not Quislet! Not Life Lass!
Did Life Lass have a connection to the Emerald Eye? No! Was Life Lass telekinetic? No! She "animated" objects, presumably by transfering part of her own lifeforce to them. Similarly, Quislet "possessed" objects; it wasn't telekinetc.
Sheesh!
Posted by Sanity or Madness? on :
Or how about "Zoe Saugin/Kinetix was a new character for the reboot, and any similarities to preboot characters are coincidental."
Works for me.
Posted by Bicycle Repair Man on :
quote:Originally posted by Nightcrawler:
quote:Originally posted by Bicycle Repair Man: Wildfire is now a fusion of two people (Radion and Blast-Off, both of whom were new characters).
Actually, it was Atom'X not Radion.
Yeah, I suspected I'd gotten them mixed up; thanks.
quote:Originally posted by Nightcrawler:
quote:Originally posted by Bicycle Repair Man: There were others, of course: members of the Workforce and the Uncanny Amazers of Xanthu (such as Particon, Atom'x, and the ever-popular Konk), Amalia Crugg, Jancel Ardeen, Tinya's father, Tangleweb, Ze Tongue, Cos's former magnoball coach ...
Particon wasn't from Xanthu, but was a member of the Workforce.
That wasn't a mistake; that parenthetical aside was meant to refer to both groups mentioned in the preceding phrase.
Posted by Bicycle Repair Man on :
quote:Originally posted by Valor the M'Onel: Sorry if no-one agrees with my opinon but here's what I think: Magno:is a slight post-boot Magnetic Kid (snip) Inferno:Is a post-boot Sun Boy
Nope, Pol Krinn and Dirk Morgna exist in the postboot continuity, which makes Magno and Inferno new characters.
Posted by Bicycle Repair Man on :
quote:Originally posted by Obadiah Oldbuck:
quote:Originally posted by Bicycle Repair Man: Violet has both shrinking and growing powers.
I'd call that a development, not a reboot change. Vi was initially rebooted esentially the same.
You have a point. I was referring to the current status quo for Violet (and Live Wire, and {insert next nitpick here } ... )
Posted by Valor the M'Onel on :
quote:Originally posted by Bicycle Repair Man:
quote:Originally posted by Valor the M'Onel: Sorry if no-one agrees with my opinon but here's what I think: Magno:is a slight post-boot Magnetic Kid (snip) Inferno:Is a post-boot Sun Boy
Nope, Pol Krinn and Dirk Morgna exist in the postboot continuity, which makes Magno and Inferno new characters.
Well if Pol and Dirk aren't heroes these guys take their places
Posted by Bicycle Repair Man on :
quote:Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester:
quote:Originally posted by Obadiah Oldbuck:
quote:Originally posted by Bicycle Repair Man: Kinetix (unless you consider her the reboot version of Quislet )
Actually, I believe that she was intended to be the reboot Life Lass. Note that even the few glimpses we have seen postboot of the Lallorian heroes, Life Lass has never been seen.
Jeepers! How many times to we have to go through this!
Kinetix was clearly intended as a postboot Cera Kesh! Not Quislet! Not Life Lass!
Did Life Lass have a connection to the Emerald Eye? No! Was Life Lass telekinetic? No! She "animated" objects, presumably by transfering part of her own lifeforce to them. Similarly, Quislet "possessed" objects; it wasn't telekinetc.
Sheesh!
Well, the "wink" was meant to indicate that I don't take this particular hypothesis too seriously, and I don't expect anyone else to, either. It's just that I still recall the stunned amazement I felt when I finally noticed the simiarities between Zoe and Quislet, not to mention the embarassment that it had taken so bloody long (over a year) for me to connect the two.
Now, if you want to hear about a pet postboot-Legion theory of mine that I do take seriously: I still think R.J. Brande could be Adam "Captain Comet" Blake, now only 99,000 years ahead of his time ...
[ May 26, 2004, 05:58 PM: Message edited by: Bicycle Repair Man ]
Posted by Valor the M'Onel on :
Repair Man you are crazy now was Gossamer,Spark when she hade Light Lass powers or when she faked being a villian?
Posted by Bicycle Repair Man on :
??? Now I'm confused; I don't remember mentioning Spark ...
Posted by Valor the M'Onel on :
Oh sorry that thing above Life Lass I read Light Lass.Cause I'm thinking of making pocket Legionnaires
Posted by Obadiah Oldbuck on :
quote:Originally posted by Valor the M'Onel: Oh sorry that thing above Life Lass I read Light Lass.Cause I'm thinking of making pocket Legionnaires
Is that a Legionnaire in your pocket, or are you just happy ot see me?
Posted by reservations on :
what about Rond Vidar? Was there a pre-boot equivalent?
Posted by Valor the M'Onel on :
There's a post-boot Rond?The pre-boot was the son of Universo and a Green Lantern not able to join the Legion for two reasons 1)He was banned from the United Planets,2)The Legion didn't allow anyone with a device to join
Posted by LoneWolfLondo on :
Just a thought to add in reference to character differences: Ferro Lad wasn't around long enough pre-boot to establish much other than his typical Legion heroism, but when he appeared in the "Mordruverse" he was still as brave as possible. The SW6 Ferro was a daredevil terrified of being seen without his mask. The current Ferro, aside from being a 20th century emigrant, sewed a lot, messed up a lot and hung out with Vi instead of the guys. He also addressed the idea of getting his face fixed, something never talked about pre-boot. And now it seems he's comfortable without the mask, but is stuck in iron form. There also seems a difference in his "hideously disfigured face": SW6 Andy seemed to need the mask to hold it together, like it wasn't solid. Post boot was just asymmetrical and unlike human norm IIRC. Just a thought cuz I'd like to see him show up in the new version, as long as he doesn't design their costumes. And I'm still a big advocate for a romance with him and Val.
Posted by Eryk Davis Ester on :
quote:Originally posted by Bicycle Repair Man:
quote:Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester:
quote:Originally posted by Obadiah Oldbuck:
quote:Originally posted by Bicycle Repair Man: Kinetix (unless you consider her the reboot version of Quislet )
Actually, I believe that she was intended to be the reboot Life Lass. Note that even the few glimpses we have seen postboot of the Lallorian heroes, Life Lass has never been seen.
Jeepers! How many times to we have to go through this!
Kinetix was clearly intended as a postboot Cera Kesh! Not Quislet! Not Life Lass!
Did Life Lass have a connection to the Emerald Eye? No! Was Life Lass telekinetic? No! She "animated" objects, presumably by transfering part of her own lifeforce to them. Similarly, Quislet "possessed" objects; it wasn't telekinetc.
Sheesh!
Well, the "wink" was meant to indicate that I don't take this particular hypothesis too seriously, and I don't expect anyone else to, either. It's just that I still recall the stunned amazement I felt when I finally noticed the simiarities between Zoe and Quislet, not to mention the embarassment that it had taken so bloody long (over a year) for me to connect the two.
How could make light of such an important issue!
Seriously, I think most "x" is a reboot "y" debates are pretty silly, myself. I'm not even clear what it's supposed to mean. Just because a character is introduced in the current version of the Legion that has a somewhat similar power to someone who existed in a previous version, how does that the new character a new "version" of the old? There's no more connection between Shikari and Dawnstar or between Kinetix, Life Lass, and Quislet or whoever than there was between Invisible Kids I and II in the preboot (and less, in fact, since Lyle and Jacques at least shared a name).
Posted by Obadiah Oldbuck on :
quote:Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester:
quote:Originally posted by Bicycle Repair Man:
quote:Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester:
quote:Originally posted by Obadiah Oldbuck:
quote:Originally posted by Bicycle Repair Man: Kinetix (unless you consider her the reboot version of Quislet )
Actually, I believe that she was intended to be the reboot Life Lass. Note that even the few glimpses we have seen postboot of the Lallorian heroes, Life Lass has never been seen.
Jeepers! How many times to we have to go through this!
Kinetix was clearly intended as a postboot Cera Kesh! Not Quislet! Not Life Lass!
Did Life Lass have a connection to the Emerald Eye? No! Was Life Lass telekinetic? No! She "animated" objects, presumably by transfering part of her own lifeforce to them. Similarly, Quislet "possessed" objects; it wasn't telekinetc.
Sheesh!
Well, the "wink" was meant to indicate that I don't take this particular hypothesis too seriously, and I don't expect anyone else to, either. It's just that I still recall the stunned amazement I felt when I finally noticed the simiarities between Zoe and Quislet, not to mention the embarassment that it had taken so bloody long (over a year) for me to connect the two.
How could make light of such an important issue!
Seriously, I think most "x" is a reboot "y" debates are pretty silly, myself. I'm not even clear what it's supposed to mean. Just because a character is introduced in the current version of the Legion that has a somewhat similar power to someone who existed in a previous version, how does that the new character a new "version" of the old? There's no more connection between Shikari and Dawnstar or between Kinetix, Life Lass, and Quislet or whoever than there was between Invisible Kids I and II in the preboot (and less, in fact, since Lyle and Jacques at least shared a name).
That would be almost entirely correct except for the fact that, um.... you're wrong.
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