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All that really matters is that we get some GOOD story telling back. I would love to pick up an issue and actually have something worthwhile to read. This isn't meant to be a picture book where we can just flip pages and exclaim "Oooooohh" "Aaaaaaaaah" "Look at the pretty pictures!"
Please, please, please tell us some "Tales of the Legion of Super Heroes!"
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When and if they go back to resume the story where the REAL Legion was last seen, standing on an asteroid among the ruins of Zerox ... I'll let out three cheers.
Until then, I'll simply take a look at what comes out under that name, and expect to have an occasional pleasant surprise, but little more than that.
The likes of Steve Lightle's art excepted, o'course -- I know how stellar that will be. And I do have considerable hope for what Gail Simone will create with this setting and cast.
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A reboot would never work. Think about it: no one would agree on just what time to reboot to and even if they did the odds are slim that the story would continue in the direction every person agrees is the right one. And after so many years, fans will have pretty strong ideas about what that direction is.
While I'm still not sure Zero hour was a good or necessary, once that decision was made, going right back to the begining was the logical course, even if it couldn't possibly satisfy everyone. There's really no point in doing it again, they'd just run into the same problems.
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Yikes! I hope this rumour isn't true! Another reboot would kill the Legion dead - how many of us want to spend a couple more years waiting for them to get round to recruiting our favourite characters?
And it would mean throwing the DnA stuff out. I know their 5 parters have been a bit on the picture-heavy, story-light side but they've worked wonders in my opinion. The thresholds, pathfinders, titanet, the cadets, even legionworld - they've given the Legion loads of much needed iconography and it would be a big shame to lose it.
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If it were up to me, I'd blend the various incarnations of the Legion we've seen over the years into a single timeline. That way, we could get most of the preboot history back, but keep the new characters and some of the other nice elements/stories since the reboot.
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A blended timeline would be the best way to go, as it would allow for stuff like bringing in Element Lad and Projectra from say, circa S/LSH 212 and keeping the new guys (Gates, Zoe) around.
But it would be a CHORE figuring out what stories had and hadn't actually taken place.
I'm thinking the relaunch is going to be either a new # 1 (I hope not) or a cover copy and hype that reads: BOLD NEW DIRECTION! SUPERSTARS WAID & KITSON DO THINGS TO THE LEGION YOU ONLY EVER IMAGINED BEFORE or some such.
quote:Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: If it were up to me, I'd blend the various incarnations of the Legion we've seen over the years into a single timeline. That way, we could get most of the preboot history back, but keep the new characters and some of the other nice elements/stories since the reboot.
All that would accomplish would be to make sure even the die-hard fans had no idea what the characters' history was. Casual fans would take one look and say "bye."
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quote:Originally posted by Sanity or Madness?: All that would accomplish would be to make sure even the die-hard fans had no idea what the characters' history was. Casual fans would take one look and say "bye."
I agree completely.
Folks, although it's nice to think that DC would entertain re-booting the Legion to before the 1994 re-boot, or before the "Five Year Gap," or before [insert the issue where you think LSH went down the toilet].
And it would be interesting to have a Legion title that somehow accommodates all incarnations of LSH. (Think of a on-going Legion "Elseworlds"-like title that would give writers/artists the freedom to tell any Legion story they wanted from ANY version of the LSH.)
Reagrdless, NONE of this is ever going to happen.
Stephen Wacker and the DC execs want to expand the Legion readership. How does the wiping away of Legion of the Damned, Legion Lost, Ra's Al Ghul, and Foundations, (among other stories) going to expand readership? How is making Legion continuity EXTREMELY confusing going to expand readership? It's not.
We all need to accept that the 1994 re-boot is here to say, and the only possible way to bring the Legion back to the point where you want it returned is to win the lottery (and I'm talking about a lottery in excess of $100 million), and present ALL of that money to DC and say, "I'd like to buy the LSH from you for $100 million. Deal?"
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quote:Originally posted by Sanity or Madness?: All that would accomplish would be to make sure even the die-hard fans had no idea what the characters' history was. Casual fans would take one look and say "bye."
Not necessarily. Not if it's done well (he says, with incredible optimism!).
Here's a scenario: Start the series with the Legion standing on Xerox at the end of the Magic Wars, only Laurel's there, and so's Jenni, Gates, Zoe, whoever else. Begin to gradually tell the events of the "5-year gap", only this time, things turn out differently.
Meanwhile, use a "Secrets of the Legion" style mini-series to go back and fill-in the general timeline of events for this continuity. Have the writers and editor actually work to make sure they have a coherent picture of the "new" Legion's history, and then let the readers know about it. Did Vi have an "Emerald Vi" phase? How did the events of "Legion Lost" transpire (suggestion: Make Chemical King the villain, and the whole "died preventing World War VII" a story to cover it up)?
Anyway, I don't think in principle it would be any less confusing than the histories of JSA or JLA, with all of the retcons they've had.
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quote:Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester: Here's a scenario: Start the series with the Legion standing on Xerox at the end of the Magic Wars, only Laurel's there, and so's Jenni, Gates, Zoe, whoever else. Begin to gradually tell the events of the "5-year gap", only this time, things turn out differently.
This is a very creative and well-thought out idea, Eryk. Now seriously... imagine having a meeting with Stephen Wacker, Paul Levitz, Jeannette Kahn, etc. and you present them this idea. Explain to THEM how your idea will NOT drive away (1) existing fans of "The Legion" (2) new fans that aren't versed in Legion lore and don't want to spend the money or time reading a "Secrets of the Legion" series to be convinced it's a concept they want to keep reading. How does your idea attract new readers?
quote:Anyway, I don't think in principle it would be any less confusing than the histories of JSA or JLA, with all of the retcons they've had.
True, but JLA and JSA star DC's "BIG GUNS": Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern. Does continuity have to make sense with those titles?
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From: Long Island, NY | Registered: Apr 2004
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Nay to a reboot, (or a return to the preboot timeline), unless it includes the entire DCU. I have enough problems accepting Superman, the Teen Titans, and the Doom Patrol; rebooting the legion now would be the final nail in the coffin. Besides, Grant Morrison has proved that it's possible to completely revitalize a concept without rebooting it, so it's really unecessary.
Speaking of Morrison, I'd be estactic if he could take on the title. I feel that he'd bring back the sense of wonder that a comic book set in the future would bring. Bring in Akira's Katsushiro Otomo on as artist (which sadly, will never ever happen) and I'd be a very happy camper.
From: San Juan, Puerto Rico | Registered: Jul 2003
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Fine then, your entitled to your opinion. But really, I think Grant Morrison is one of the few writers to really, really understand the silver age and who knows to really translate it to a modern audience. He's the one writer I trust to bring the epicness back to the thirtieth century (who, IMO, is actually a step backwards from the twentieth century, technologically). Plus, he's one of the few writers who fully plans his stories out, instead of making them up as they go along.
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From: San Juan, Puerto Rico | Registered: Jul 2003
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Morrison usually runs hot or cold for me, with not a lot of in-between.
Hated his take on X-Men, but Doom Patrol and Animal Man were brilliant!! Invisibles went both ways. I thought the third issue of the first series was pure gold, but by issue 8 I was thinking "Why am I still reading this book? Ugh!!"
I guess his JLA was in-between...
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