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I liked him as an unknown. That's why I voted for Something New
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Although the idea of TT turning out to be Dynamo Boy (not Kid) is appealing, I went with "renegade Controller." The impact of the story in which this was revealed is still with me as it ties in neatly with what we already know about the Controllers. It gives the Trapper near-omnipotent powers and a plausible motive (e.g., power corrupts), something sorely lacking for a living embodiment of entropy.
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From: The Stasis Zone | Registered: Jul 2003
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I was torn between 'something brand new' and 'an obscure Legion related character', but ultimately went with the latter. Part of the reason I love the Trapper is that he’s so complicated and there’s so many possibilities in regards to what he is and who he is. Once revealed, I almost feel like then his story is close to over (except for the inevitable finale/showdown that would follow). I personally liked the ‘entropy’ aspect of him, but I also kind of liked the Rokk reveal. I loved the Glorith character, but feel that she should be able to stand on her own, so that her and TT are not one and the same.
But when it comes down to it, the visual of the character is too appealing for me not to want there be some sort of ‘reveal’. That hood and cloak just beg for it, whether my logic tells me other wise. But a Legionnaire has been done and a Legion villain is repetitive. So I want it to be someone obscure. Like Dynamo Boy, or someone that makes sense that way.
From: If you don't want my peaches, honey... | Registered: Sep 2003
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I echo Cobalt Kid .. cobalt kid ...cobalt ki ...
However, I really don't need to know his identity. The unknown makes him more powerful and more scary, IMO. The revelation that he was a Controller (although taken back), Glorith, and/or Rokk Krinn were all anti-climatic after the fact.
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From: Frederick, MD | Registered: Aug 2003
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quote:Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: But when it comes down to it, the visual of the character is too appealing for me not to want there be some sort of ‘reveal’. That hood and cloak just beg for it, whether my logic tells me other wise.
This is one of those "couldn't disagree more" moments. The only way I could support this idea is if the cloak came off - and it was empty, the Trapper WAS the cloak. "Its old Mr Jefferson, the man who was sweeping the corridor at the start of the episode" reveals are SO anti-climatic. You even admit it in the same post, in a way:
quote:Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: Part of the reason I love the Trapper is that he’s so complicated and there’s so many possibilities in regards to what he is and who he is. Once revealed, I almost feel like then his story is close to over (except for the inevitable finale/showdown that would follow).
Which is just... y'know, the mask comes off and it's... A WHITE CAUCASIAN MALE!!!
It's a Scooby-Doo reveal - it "has" to be someone you know. This doesn't get better if it's an obscure "someone you know".
quote:Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: I personally liked the ‘entropy’ aspect of him, but I also kind of liked the Rokk reveal.
The problem with "the Rokk reveal" - well, leaving aside the essential Scooby-Dooiness of it all and that, as you acknowledge, it reduces the TT severely - is that it's chronologically absurd. You've got a sequential series of reality changes, which are essentially metachronological (the chronology of chronology ) and thus have an order - and the TT is someone not from the top rung of the ladder. If he's "someone" as opposed to a personification, he needs to be someone from the Pre-Crisis era (or "earlier", from the reality which was recreated into the Pre-Crisis era by Krona). Which is why it's probably for the best that the "Rokk reveal", if not completely negated, was hugely watered down in LSH105.
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I nearly voted "Krona" because not only did that possibility intrigue me since I'd never thought of it before, but also because this potentially leaves the door open for "Rogue Controller" (sort of) and "Personification of Etrophy," too, sometime down the road.
By the way, it also occured to me that if character origins are rebooted yet again, Krona would also make a plausible Infinite Man. Y'know, along the lines of: "Okay, Krona, if you want to view forbidden events in time so badly, then--WHAM!--we Guardians of the Universe damn you to hurtle repeatedly through the cycle of time so that others will be dissuaded from attempting to view the moment of Creation." Just an idea, anyway.
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If you see a gun in the first act of the play, that gun best be fired by the end.
If you strand a guy in a far future post-apocalyptic environment with a broken time machine in Adv. #331, then that guy best be coming back for revenge and more badass than ever.
Of course, if you've already got a badass villain who uses a somewhat similar m.o. who, I don't know, comes from a far future post-apocalyptic environment and whose origins are really mysterious, then there best be some connection between the two of them.
That's all I'm sayin'.
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From: Liberty City | Registered: Jul 2003
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Both ephemeral and eternal. I enjoyed the progression the character went through, remaining fairly ill-defined.
I'm a bit torn though between whether TT's purpose with the Legion should have an overall cosmic scheme sort of thing or that Legion was just a mouse TT particularly enjoyed playing with. Certainly LSH needs at least one of both type characters. Legion never really had a Mxyzptlk did they, someone who's goal was just to aggravate?
From: East Toledo | Registered: Jul 2003
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I'd prefer a complete and utter mystery; just when you think he/it's nailed down, you're wrong. I did vote for Krono, though, 'cause it was a neat idea.
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada | Registered: Dec 2003
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There are a couple of great ideas here but I'd like the Trapper to be Dream Girl+ this time around. Brainy did some strange stuff with her this boot and I'd like there to be more of a consequence than that he now has a split personality.
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I agree with Cobalt that the hood begs for there to be a reveal. I'm OK with him being entropy but would prefer him being someone.
Dynamo Boy? Sure. Anybody from Legion history that fits without a huge retcon or complication.
EXCEPT a former member. Atleast a "real" member. By this I mean people who were members for more than a day. I hated Rokk as the Trapper.
I think they would have to define what the Trapper is trying to do. Loved in v4 the Mordu/Trapper, iron curtain of time stuff.
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Also the discarded ideas would make great villains in their own right.
EDE, I think you stated before how many Controllers have gone rogue. But you know DC really doesn't use the Controllers. Lets take them from the GL books.
Dynamo Boy? To reintroduce a writer has a really good job retelling his story but I think it's possible. As long as they don't get long winded with the exposition.
Krona as Infinity Man? Well not sure I like that but both of them in a story would rock.
Legion has a great history with a wealth of villains that any point can be made into great villains. I guess that's another post.
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