Eryk Davis Ester
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So I thought the issue was pretty good overall, though fairly predictable.
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Dr. Gym'll is blue.
The Credo members just come off as a nameless horde. The traitorous Kwai member is a good excuse for allowing them to use the threshhold, however.
Yay! Floating Foxlike Creature Boy speaks!
Jeepers! Is not just obvious that the Credo have become exactly what they oppose? Now Singularity's talking about "deleting" people! Though his motivation was pretty much what I'd been expecting all along (finding his homeworld that he was supposed to be protecting destroyed by the Progenitor). But how'd he find out about the Legion-Progenitor connection? Maybe the word spread from the Progenitor sending the Progeny to look for the Legion back during Legion Lost?
Why do they have to "set translators"? I thought the telepathic earplugs would translate automatically, no matter what the language?
Uh... don't the Credo have plenty of super-powered members of their own? Why is Kid Quantum's speech supposed to scare them?
Yay! Love the 'big button' costume!
Violet written like Vi should be, it seems. Though can she not just hang around normal-sized? At least she's not giant, but what's up with her just sitting on Cos's shoulder?
Okay... so the all-powerful evil Progenitor surrenders himself to you. Then suddenly you decided not to honor the terms of the agreement and to delete him and his friends "tomorrow". Uh, folks, this is the freakin' Progenitor! The guy y'all were running in terror from at the beginning of the issue! Why isn't Singularity afraid of Jarth?
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From: Liberty City | Registered: Jul 2003
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I started out matching him to issue #19, and I think his base (shadow) color is the same. But now that I compare the two, he clearly is much bluer. My bad.
So what would bother you more: if I left him blue or if he suddenly changed back in his next appearance?
From: Canada | Registered: Aug 2003
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Maybe his blueness can be explained as Garth waking him up in the middle of the night. I don't think there has been anything established about Gym'll's race. Maybe when they sleep they turn blue as they cool down.
From: Utah | Registered: Jul 2003
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Whatever color he was when he was delivering the Ranzz twins is okay by me.
I pretty much agree with EDE on this issue.
Some nice splashes but mainly the art was wasted. (Except for Monel).
I've got a sinking feeling this is going to be an opportunity lost, but we'll see if DnA go out with a bang or have decided to flip the finger on their way out with another of their annoying cubs, clayface Kinetixes... Whoever is doing the writing has a compulsice disorder, like the types that need to step back and forth through the door three times before proceeding. Please don't have Thong Girl warn Clone boy about behavior again, it's getting old. "Think Fast." sigh.
From: East Toledo | Registered: Jul 2003
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just read the issue...i'm a little excited to see the credo again what with their cool logo and third reich imagery. ...and also excited to hopefully have some resolution to the "progenitor" storyline. alot about the progenitor's story soumded fishy, especially the sheer amount of time that went by that didn't seem to affect wildfire. and what ever happened to the daxamite that went into the rift before wildfire and the legion lost? i've always hoped that it would be revealed that Jan was possessed by a corrupting spirit (hence his alien faceted green eyes). now it seems singularity has grown some glowing green eyes as well as a habit of deleting life forms. i hope that next issue will prove me right and return Live Wire to his rightful body if not Element Lad as well. alot to hope for in just one final DnA issue, especially after drawn out 5 part battles. we'll see.
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What's up with her [Violet] sitting on Cos' shoulder? "Cos? A word?", she says. Sounds like little Vi has a plan. A job for the Subterfuge Squad?
How'd he [Singularity] find out about the Legion-Progenitor connection? I think the Credo have suspected a connection since the first peace mission (issue #5?) when the Legion put the Progeny under their protection. Now they have proof.
Why isn't Singularity afraid of Jarth? IMHO, it would have been out of character for Singularity to show fear of the *real* Progenitor, much less Jarth. I dare say he's much less terrifying to the others without his "Progeny spawn".
Don't the Credo have plenty of super-powered members of their own? We've seen three with powers in the past, iirc: Singularity, the polar bear (Brek), and the octopus guy. The others are maybe just wierd-looking aliens without special powers. We didn't see any wielded in the fight scene. [Edit: oh yeah, there *is* a flame-head guy in this issue with fire/energy powers.]
I *did* find it odd, however, that M'onel (and by extension the Kwai mission team) was unaware of Garth's resurrection. How long have they been out of touch?
Some fine moments in this issue: the murder of the Kwai navigator; Jazmin's speech to the Credo; M'onel and Superboy (old friends reunited); the Credo command ship crushing an entire city; and Ultra Boy's quip to Singularity.
Putting all issues of physical appearance aside, we also get a spot-on characterization of Live Wire as he ought to be -- arguing with his superior, losing his temper and finally disobeying direct orders to take matters into his own hands. His comment to Singularity, "Fate has ordained I now take his [the Progenitor's] form", was a bit chilling.
Ronda, you did a great job coloring this issue, Gym'll nothwithstanding (change him back, please). I disagree that the art was "wasted". The Credo were well rendered (they didn't look silly) and Singularity was appropriately imposing.
Predictable? Maybe, but well done. I look forward to the rest of the story.
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All in all it wasn't a bad issue. My only gripes are that once again we see almost every Legionnaire and very few speak. I love Batista's art, but why feature every Legionnaire if all they are going to do is S & M (Stand & Model)? My other gripe is the return of Mone'l's old costume. It is very outdated and does not compare with his starfield outift. I'm hoping that this is a temporary look as his costume was destroyed. The "big button" look has got to go.
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quote:Originally posted by Tromium Crystal: I *did* find it odd, however, that M'onel (and by extension the Kwai mission team) was unaware of Garth's resurrection. How long have they been out of touch?
In Foundations alone, FIVE WEEKS happened. Not to mention the clean up of the stargates and last issue. If the away team was out of touch for so long, shouldn't the Legion have gone looking for them and not the other way around. And this issue's entire story should have filled ten pages tops. This lack of substance is maddening.
Oh, and mechana, I vote for showing Gym'll as purple next appearance.
From: San Diego, CA | Registered: Jul 2003
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It was a decent issue. Definitely, one of the better of the past year. That's not saying much, though.
Anyhow, some things I liked -
1. The art. Pencils, coloring, and inking all blended well for a very clear view of what was going on. I'm really going to miss Batista. I have to say that I wasn't too fond of his style at first, but it has really grown on me. If he had worked on some meaningful stories, he may have gone down as one of the all-time Legion best. As it is, though, his artwork will probably always be associated with the sub-par storytelling.
2. The Academy students cameo. They didn't play an integral part of the story. But they appeared just enough to tease us, and let us wonder what their all about. Pretty much just like in the preeboot.
3. Superboy. I get a kick out of the way he's being used here. I hope he sticks around for awhile. Does Kon-El still not age? If that's the case, he could be here indefinitely, just as long as a little mindwipe clears his memories before he goes back to the present. Keep him around, I say, unless he starts hogging the space like his last namesake did.
4. Kid Quantum's speech. Great writing here. The line about the variety of powers the Legion had stood out to me.
Things I didn't like -
1. Kid Quantum's Speech. It was a great speech, but was then followed up with ... "Fine then. Legion...Let's go." What??? Four of your comrades are prisoners and you turn around and run? It's not as though she even had a viable plan when they got back to Legion World. I have a real problem with the way they just left the other Legionnaires. Which leads me to my next point...
2. Legionnaires in prison. Sorry, but if the Credo just go around killing millions of people, why would they hold Brande and the Legionnaires as prisoners? What would Singularity possibly have to gain from that strategy? Bad writing. For that matter, why would the Legion first hear about this from M'Onel? Wouldn't some of the Kwai "taxi drivers" let the Legion know what's going on in their own galaxy?
3. The Cover. Bleh. Blandest cover on the stands that week. They should've let Batista draw it.
4. Jarth. It doesn't look like DnA are going to resolve this issue, but instead are leaving him on the list of disfigured characters for somebody else to fix (Kinetix, Cub, Sensor, Ferro).
A decent issue. If only DnA's recent stories were more compact like this one, they may have been able to finish some of their ideas.
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Another though just hit me - what if, somehow, Singularity was actually the real Progenitor? The last page shows him talking about deleting the Legionnaires. Now I know that it's probably just an attempt at irony - Credo doing exactly what their sworn enemy was doing.
But what if somehow, DnA pull one last switch on us in order to tie up their biggest story of their run. If Singularity was the real Progenitor all along, it may be a way to redeem Element Lad and bring him back! OK, so my theory doesn't really make sense, but one can hope, right?
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Eryk Davis Ester
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quote:Originally posted by mechana:
quote:Originally posted by Eryk Davis Ester:
Dr. Gym'll is blue.
I started out matching him to issue #19, and I think his base (shadow) color is the same. But now that I compare the two, he clearly is much bluer. My bad.
So what would bother you more: if I left him blue or if he suddenly changed back in his next appearance?
I don't have #19 handy to compare, but I'd rather him change back to more purplish. Overall, though, the colors (and art generally) are excellent.
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My own crazy theory is that, unbeknownst to him, Singularity is the only begotten son of the Progenitor. Think about it: blonde hair, green energy signature, superhuman powers. If true, his mom must've been a REALLY big-boned girl.
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Oh my gosh! Progenitor is the love child of Element Lad and Monstress!!!!!
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Eryk Davis Ester
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Seriously, though, the Element Lad/Singularity parallels are interesting, and I'll be shocked if DnA don't play upon them in the final issue. Compare the destruction of Trom's civilization by the White Triangle to the destruction of Lorca Prime (or whatever Singularity's world was called) by the Progeny. Compare what Element Lad apparently became to what Singularity has become.
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